March 11, 2013
You Say You’re a Homeowner and Not a Renter? Think Again.
As we’ve said before, we’re suckers for cool charts. The latest that caught our eye is the following one, originally created by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). It highlights the relative importance assigned to the various components of the consumer price index (CPI) and shows where increases in the index have come from over the past 12 months.
It probably won’t surprise anyone that the drop in gasoline prices (found in the transportation component) exerted downward pressure on the CPI last year, while the cost of medical care pushed the price index higher. What might surprise you is the size of that big, blue square labeled “housing.” Housing accounts for a little more than 40 percent of the CPI market basket and, given its weight, any change in this component significantly affects the overall index.
This begs the question: In light of the recent strength seen in the housing market—and notably the nearly 10 percent rise in home prices over the past 12 months—are housing costs likely to exert more upward pressure on the CPI?
Before we dive into this question, it’s important to understand that home prices do not directly enter into the computation of the CPI (or the personal consumption expenditures [PCE] price index, for that matter). This is because a home is an asset, and an increase in its value does not impose a “cost” on the homeowner. But there is a cost that homeowners face in addition to home maintenance and utilities, and that’s the implied rent they incur by living in their home rather than renting it out. In effect, every homeowner is his or her own tenant, and the rent they forgo each month is called the “owners’ equivalent rent” (or OER) in the CPI. OER represents about 24 percent of the CPI (and about 11 percent of the PCE price index). The CPI captures this OER cost (sensibly, in our view) by measuring the cost of home rentals (details here). So whether the robust rise in home prices will influence the behavior of the CPI this year depends on whether rising home prices influence home rents.
So what is likely to happen to OER given the continued increase in home prices? Well, higher home prices, in time, ought to cause home rents to rise, putting upward pressure on the CPI. Homes are assets to landlords, after all, and landlords (like all investors) require an adequate return on their investments. Let’s call this the “asset market influence” of home prices on home rents. But the rents that landlords charge also compete with homeownership. If renters decide to become homeowners, the rental market loses customers, which should push home rents in the opposite direction of home prices for a time. Let’s call this the “substitution influence” on rent prices.
Consider the following charts, which show three-month home prices and home rents (measured by the CPI’s OER measure). It’s a little hard to see a clear correlation between these two measures.
So we’ve separated these data into their trend and cycle components (using Hodrick-Prescott procedures, if you must know) shown in the following two charts. Now, if one takes the trend view, there is a clear positive relationship between home prices and home rents. This is consistent with the asset market influence described above. But also consider the detrended perspective. Here, home prices and home rents are pretty clearly negatively correlated. This, to us, looks like the substitution influence described above.
So let’s get back to the question at hand. What do rising home prices mean for OER and, ultimately, the behavior of the CPI? Well, it’s rather hard to say because the link between home prices and OER isn’t particularly strong.
Not definitive enough for you? OK, how about this: We think the recent rise in home prices will more likely lean against the rise in OER for the near term as the growing demand for home ownership provides some competition to the rental market. But, in time, these influences will give way to the asset market fundamentals, and rents are likely to accelerate as returns on real estate investments are reaffirmed.
By Mike Bryan, vice president and senior economist, and
Nick Parker, economic research analyst, both in the Atlanta Fed’s research department
March 11, 2013 in Economics, Housing, Real Estate | Permalink
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Posted by:
stewart sprague |
March 11, 2013 at 10:55 PM
When comparing house prices to OER, it's worthwhile to separate out the influence of interest rates. So instead of comparing house prices directly, it is useful to compare the P+I payment on that loan ammount at the going rate for 30 year mortgages.
Posted by:
Jim A |
March 12, 2013 at 07:54 AM
Can't you tell just by eyeballing the data that OER lags by about 18 months behind home prices? Shift the red line back, and see what that does to your correlation!
Posted by:
Matchoo |
March 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM
So, let me see if I get this right: the inflation rate is calculated in part from a mathematical construct representing a cost that no one actually pays, based on surveys asking people what they think their house is worth in rent. (And of course we know that homeowners are not biased in their view of the worth of their house!) I live in Cambridge, which has high rents and low vacancy rates. I'm giving me a pretty good deal on my rent--I should be charging me a lot more! As a practical matter I do regard the difference between my mortgage and what it would cost to rent around here as a kind of savings (thanks, super-low interest rates!). But then, you can also see how, since my mortgage is fixed, I am more concerned with inflation of costs that come directly out of my pocket, such as maintenance and food. Sadly, plumbers don't want to get paid in nontransferable theoretical constructs.
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MacCruiskeen |
March 12, 2013 at 01:14 PM
The "correlation" chart is not persuasive.
A simpler hypothesis is that the CPI determination of OER is flawed. One might then be concerned that this bad OER measurement distorts the CPI and could lead to serious macro consequences due to the widespread use of a bad CPI.
And indeed, if one takes time to read how OER is actually determined, one is not heartened. The quote is below. The bottom line is that some owners are SURVEYED and asked their OPINION about what their house WOULD rent for, if they rented it! I am flabbergasted by this, because in my experience owner's responses are horribly biased and not at all reflective of actual rental market conditions. Many owners haven't even looked at renting for years, decades, etc. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY TO MEASURE 24% of the CPI! (The fact that this isn't being done, despite the weight and importance of this part of CPI, is a significant "tell" that no one actually cares about getting anything factually right in economics...)
From the link given in the article above:
" ' ... Owners’ equivalent rent of primary residence (OER) is based on the following question that the Consumer Expenditure Survey asks of consumers who own their primary residence:
“If someone were to rent your home today, how much do you think it would rent for monthly, unfurnished and without utilities?”
... From the responses to these questions, the CPI estimates the total shelter cost to all consumers living in each index area of the urban United States. ' "
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Wisdom Seeker |
March 14, 2013 at 05:07 PM
October 19, 2012
Investor Participation in the Home-Buying Market
What is the investor share of the home-buying market, and in what direction is the trend moving? We have been asking ourselves this question for the past few months, because the answer can help to inform what type of housing recovery we are seeing. Is it being driven by owner occupants or investors?
If it is being driven by investors, does this signal an emerging aversion to homeownership? Or, instead, does this simply signal that owner occupants are unable access mortgage finance and that, for now, owner occupants will be unable to maintain the share of market they once held? If we see that the owner occupant share is increasing, this observation could offer some support that the housing recovery has legs. The conclusion that the investor share is increasing, then, may suggest that we will see home sales activity fall off once prices rise to the point that it no longer makes sense for investors to continue buying.
To help us pinpoint the share and trend in the investor participation in the home-buying market, we polled our real estate business contacts to get a better sense for our regional portrait of investor market share. When asked to describe the distribution of home buyers in their market, our business contacts from the Southeast (excluding Florida) noted that one-fifth of home sales, on average, were to investors. Once we added Florida into our tally of Southeast contacts, just over one-fourth of sales, on average, were to investors.
Since this was the first time we posed this question to our business contacts, we lacked information on the directional trend. To address this information gap, we asked our business contacts how sales to investors had changed between the second and third quarters of 2012. More than half reported no change or a slight decline in home sales to investors, unless you include the Florida observations. A closer look at Florida reveals that nearly two-thirds of our business contacts reported that sales to investors in Florida have increased over the past quarter. The investor dynamic in Florida all seems to add up, especially given the strong demand from international buyers and cash investors in South Florida. This dynamic was discussed in the latest issue of EconSouth.
We thought it would also be informative to ask our business contacts about their expectations for future investor home buying activity. For the Southeast less Florida, more than half of our business contacts indicated that they did not expect there to be much change in investor market share over the next year. For Florida, more than half of the business contacts continued to indicate that they expected share of sales to investors to increase.
While the intelligence gathered from our business contacts aligns nicely with external data sources, we still had a few concerns that made us question the directional trend of these data.
The first source of concern is two-fold. First, brokers serve as a key input to our business contact poll and others like it. In and of itself, this is not a big deal because brokers are valued business contacts that provide us with a frequent and timely pulse on changing conditions in local real estate markets. What is slightly problematic is that brokers often rely heavily on the Multiple Listing Service (MLS), which brings me to my second point. We have also been hearing through business contacts (and this is echoed in the media here) that the composition of the investor pool has shifted from primarily smaller mom/pop-type investors to larger institutional investors that, more often than not, purchase properties at auction or directly from banks. Often, these sales take place before the properties get listed on MLS.
So, how involved are brokers in transactions that take place before MLS? Is this particular slice of investment activity being picked up by our sources? If not, how much do we really know about the share and directional trend of investor participation in the home buyer market?
Media coverage (here, for example) of these institutional investors often describes scenes at local auction in which institutional investors outbid smaller investors and have gone so far as to expand their presence and show up at auctions where properties at the fringe (in less desirable locations) are being sold. This piece of information, alone, leads me to believe that these larger investors have displaced smaller investors. Therefore, it would not necessarily be correct to think of properties acquired by institutional investors as something in addition to the properties purchased by smaller mom/pop investors. Instead, many of the mom/pop investors have been priced out of the market and replaced by institutional investors.
Another related concern involves the timing and strategy of these institutional investors. Why would institutional investors flood local real estate markets at the same time that inventory is tightening and home prices are beginning to stabilize and modestly increase in many markets? Wouldn't this squeeze their yields and make it less desirable for them to continue to ramp up their efforts?
To help provide some insight into the institutional investor, I created a table of information to provide a profile on a few institutional investors often cited by the press. It is important to mention that this table was not intended to be all-encompassing and that the source of information is entirely secondary.
What this table implies is that institutional investors ramped up activity earlier this year and have indeed concentrated their investment activity within a handful of markets that were hit hard by the housing downturn. Acquisition strategies for these larger investors focus on mostly low-priced, distressed properties.
This makes sense. The markets hit hardest by the housing downturn are also the markets where distressed properties make up a significant portion of the available homes for sale. However, data from CoreLogic indicates that the share of distressed sales is steadily declining over time. As the distressed sales share continues to shrink and home prices continue to rise, it stands to reason that investment activity will shrink (or continue to shrink).
It was recently noted that Och-Ziff Capital Management Group LLC, a large institutional investor (not outlined in the table above), announced that it intends to exit this line of business. Perhaps it is just a matter of time before other large investors follow suit.
By Jessica Dill, a senior analyst in the Atlanta Fed’s Center for Real Estate Analytics
October 19, 2012 in Housing, Real Estate | Permalink
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Another approach to this general topic is to track sales vs. mortgage purchase applications. Sales to investors generally do not require a single property mortgage. Sales were much stronger than applications in 2011 and the first half of 2012. More recently applications have picked up. This is consistent with investors being more active last year and early this year. Owner occupants now seem to have become more dominant.
Posted by:
Douglas Lee |
October 22, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Hi Jessica. You are correct. The markets hit hardest by the housing downturn are also the markets where distressed properties make up a significant portion of the available homes for sale.
Posted by:
regulatory arbitrage |
October 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Hi Jessica. I totally agree with you. the markets hit hardest by the housing downturn are also the markets where distressed properties make up a significant portion of the available homes for sale.
Posted by:
adr arbitrage |
November 06, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Jessica, this seems to be the case everywhere. Living in Panama there are a number of Americans who initially moved down here in the boom and had properties back home. Some of them have had to let those properties go, as even if they returned home, they would not be able to keep up the payments and the cost of living.
Posted by:
Jeanne Smith |
December 01, 2012 at 01:14 PM
Another one in agreement, downturn causes a lot of stress on the market all over the World. We just had our Auturm Statement here in the UK and there it was good for business bad for the individual.
Posted by:
Dean K |
December 06, 2012 at 03:27 AM
The housing market is different all over the World, but each Country has some dstressed areas more than others. Good article will return and read more. Thank you Jessica.
Posted by:
Peter |
December 07, 2012 at 08:57 AM
The markets hit hardest by the housing downturn are also the markets where distressed properties make up a significant portion of the available homes for sale.
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January 25, 2013 at 09:02 AM
September 17, 2012
Will the Housing Market Recovery Leave the Hardest-Hit Neighborhoods Behind?
The national news about residential real estate has been rosy. The latest figures from the U.S. Census Bureau and HUD find that sales of new single-family houses in July 2012 were up 3.6 percent over the June rate, and 25.3 percent above July 2011 numbers. The National Association of Realtors reported that existing-home sales grew 2.3 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.47 million in July from 4.37 million in June and are 10.4 percent above the July 2011 pace. The June S&P/Case-Shiller report on housing prices showed positive monthly gains across all markets in its 20-city composite for the second month in a row.
However, a large number of homes remain in the foreclosure pipeline and many of these properties are concentrated in certain neighborhoods, which is a particular challenge for recovery in these areas because research suggests that concentrated mortgage delinquency and foreclosure can depress housing prices (see discussions here, here, and here).
To examine this issue and the barriers to recovery in areas heavily affected by foreclosure, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta's Community and Economic Development (CED) group conducted a poll to explore housing market conditions in the Southeast. We asked Neighborhood Stabilization Program administrators, HUD-approved housing counselors, and real estate brokers across the Sixth Federal Reserve District about price expectations and changes in supply and demand in the housing market. The poll was administered between August 7 and August 24. We received 224 responses to the poll and conducted an additional 23 interviews, all within the Sixth District, which includes all of Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, and parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee. The overall response rate to the poll was 30 percent (individual state response rates varied from 22 percent (Georgia) to 52 percent (Tennessee).
When we asked about their house price expectations over the next year (see the chart), we saw signs of bifurcation, with more than half (54 percent) expecting the overall jurisdiction to experience gains, but nearly half (48 percent) expecting the hardest-hit areas in those jurisdictions to continue to see price declines. (For our purposes, "hardest-hit areas" are defined as the top 10 neighborhoods in the area that had the most foreclosures. Also the differences across all parameters—price, inventory of homes for sale, and interest in home buying—between overall jurisdiction and the hard-hit areas are statistically significant.)
The differences between the overall jurisdiction and the hard-hit areas are less pronounced, though still present, when we asked respondents about changes in home buying interest and the number of homes for sale in the last six months (see the chart). Reflecting on the overall jurisdiction, 67 percent said that interest in home buying increased, and of those only 14 percent said it was a significant increase. Another 17 percent experienced decreased home-buying interest.
The "home-buying enthusiasm" found in overall jurisdictions is not as robust when respondents talked about hardest-hit neighborhoods. Although 46 percent mention that the interest in home buying in these areas has increased, it was offset by the 29 percent who noted a decrease in interest in home buying in these areas.
On the other hand, the inventory of homes for sale in the overall jurisdiction has increased in the last six months, according to 57 percent of the respondents (see the chart). (Of these respondents, 45 percent said the inventory increased modestly.) When referring to hardest-hit areas, almost half said that the number of homes for sale had increased in the last six months, 26 percent said it had remained the same, and 27 percent said the number had decreased. And while the trends in the overall jurisdiction and the hard-hit areas may not be wildly divergent in terms of the for-sale inventory, the causes may be different. In the overall jurisdiction, homeowners may be putting their homes on the market because they feel better about the potential returns, whereas it seems reasonable to suggest that in hard-hit areas the increase in inventory of homes for sale may reflect a continued foreclosure pipeline.
We then asked about the top barriers to house-price stabilization and recovery in the areas hardest hit by foreclosure. According to our respondents, the most significant barrier is the poor credit scores and financial history of people wanting to purchase homes in these areas (see the table). With tightened lending standards, fewer people are able to secure financing to buy homes. The next two barriers concern the continued flow of foreclosure starts in these areas. In these cases, the respondents suggest that foreclosures are initiated either because people owe more on their homes than they are worth or because of recent unemployment or underemployment of borrowers decreasing the ability to repay. Respondents also noted that low appraisals in hard-hit areas have undermined sales. Finally, the high concentration of vacant properties, likely perpetuated by the higher-ranked barriers identified in the poll, presents an image of disinvestment in the areas, making it difficult to attract new buyers.
It's important to recognize that even among hard-hit areas there are notable variations and expectations for the future. For example, responses to house price expectations in Florida's hard-hit areas were much more optimistic, with 36 percent expecting increases in the next year, compared to Georgia's hard-hit areas, where only 3 percent anticipated prices going up. Of course, there are metro areas where this "micro-recovery thesis," as Nick Timiraos of the Wall Street Journal puts it, is not at play. "Denver and Phoenix are experiencing price increases in almost every ZIP code," he notes. (A previous macroblog post provides another look at ZIP code–level house price analysis.)
By Karen Leone de Nie, research manager in the Atlanta Fed's Community and Economic Development (CED) department,
and
Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, an Atlanta Fed research economist and adviser to the CED research and policy team
September 17, 2012 in Housing | Permalink
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The newest form of discrimination - credit discrimination?
Posted by:
Daniel R. Levitan |
September 19, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Karen, I think it take some years for those you had to foreclose to get back on the property ladder. Also same for those who don't have higher enough credit score to purchase. Criteria for borrowing is more difficult today than it was 5-10 years ago.
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Kevin |
December 09, 2012 at 06:54 AM
August 29, 2012
Rising House Prices: The Good Fortune Spreads
On the heels of a rash of pretty good news related to residential real estate—including yesterday's pending home sales report—the June S&P/Case-Shiller report on housing prices checks in with positive monthly gains across all markets in its 20-city composite for the second month in a row. What's more, the index posted its first year-over-year gain since last summer.
The early reviews found little to dislike, from Calculated Risk...
This was better than the consensus forecast and the change to a year-over-year increase is significant.
...to Carpe Diem...
More evidence that the U.S. housing market has passed the bottom and is now in a period of sustainable recovery.
...to TimeBusiness...
[T]he housing market is steadily improving and is poised to contribute to economic growth this year. Modest economic growth and job gains are encouraging more Americans to buy homes.
The widespread nature of price firming evident in the Case-Shiller index is strikingly confirmed by looking at even more disaggregated data. The following chart shows June year-over-year price growth by zip code, before the crisis hit and since, based on data available from CoreLogic:
The sample represented by the chart covers about 21 percent of all of the zip codes in the nation, and is based (like Case-Shiller) on a repeat-sales methodology.
The striking aspect, of course, is that there haven't been price increases in the majority of the sample's zip codes since before 2007 (although there was improvement evident in 2010, followed by the re-emergence of broader weakness in 2011). Furthermore, the uniformity of the picture becomes even more apparent when you look market by market (across which the experience is not so uniform). Two of the big comeback stories—Miami and Phoenix—were uniform in the breadth of the suffering across their metro areas during the worst of the slump and are now just as uniform in recovery:
Folks in Atlanta, on the other hand—which remains the big negative outlier in the year-over-year Case-Shiller statistics—are just as uniform as Miami and Phoenix, but in the pain rather gain department:
Even so, the Atlanta market has had two consecutive months of Case-Shiller housing price appreciation and experienced the largest monthly percentage gains in the June report. It does appear that the rising residential real estate tide is raising most boats.
By Dave Altig, executive vice president and research director;
Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, research economist and assistant policy adviser; and
Jessica Dill, senior economic research analyst, and all with the Atlanta Fed
August 29, 2012 in Housing, Real Estate | Permalink
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the same analysts who panned the homebuyer tax credits as temporary market distortions are ignoring the temporary distortion in home prices caused by operation twist induced record low interest rates, which effectively reduces the amount a buyer pays for a home even as the list price rises..
the average interest rate on fixed rate 30 year mortgages in July was 3.55%, a full percentage point lower than Freddie Mac's had the 30 year mortgage rate at a year ago...a simple mortgage calculation shows that the monthly cost per $100,000 on a 30 year mortgage in july of 2012 was $451.84, compared to the $509.66 per $100K one would have paid monthly on a 30 year mortgage last July; that means to buy the same house a year ago would have cost a potential homeowner 12.8% more in payments monthly than it would cost under current interest rate regimes...so even should July's home price indexes show a 2.8% year over year gain in the principal price of the house, it would mean that potential home buyers are still commiting 10% less to homeownership than they were a year ago...the so-called housing recovery is merely a fiction of low interest rates, which will not stay this low forever...
Posted by:
rjs |
August 29, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Just like the unemployment figures, which don't reflect the numbers of those unemployed who have exited the job market, the housing data do not reflect those houses that have been taken off the market nor do they reflect those houses that have not been put on the market due to depressed prices. Once a steady trend of home sales begins, those who have been waiting on the sidelines will put their homes on the market driving prices down once again. The solution is not short term. The reality is, we are in the midst of (and have been for the past three years) the greatest redistribution of wealth in our Nation's history.
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Kirk Wiles |
September 04, 2012 at 01:39 PM
May 13, 2011
Just how out of line are house prices?
In Wednesday's post, I referenced commentary from several bloggers regarding the sizeable decline in housing prices reported by Zillow earlier this week. As I discussed yesterday, the rat-through-the-snake process of working down existing and prospective distressed properties is likely far from over, and how that process plays out will no doubt have an impact on how much prices will ultimately adjust.
Recently, Barry Ritholtz's The Big Picture blog featured an update of a New York Times chart that suggests there will be a significant adjustment going forward:
Prior to the crisis, I was persistently advised that the better way to think about the "right" home price is to focus on price-rent ratios, because rents reflect the fundamental flow of implicit or explicit income generated by a housing asset. In retrospect that advice looks pretty good, so I am inclined to think in those terms today. A simple back-of-the envelope calculation for this ratio—essentially comparing the path of the S&P/Case-Shiller composite price index for 20 metropolitan regions to the time path of the rent of primary residences in the consumer price index—tells a somewhat different story than the New York Times chart used in the aforementioned Ritholtz blog post:
According to this calculation, current prices have nearly returned to levels relative to rents that prevailed in the decade prior to the housing boom that began in the late 1990s.
Of course, the price-rent ratio is not the most sophisticated of calculations. David Leonhardt shows the results from other such calculations that suggest prices relative to rents are still elevated, at least relative to the average that prevailed in the 1990s. But the adjustment that would be required to bring current levels back into line with the precrisis average is still much lower than suggested by the Ritholtz graph.
How much farther prices fall is, I think, critical in the determination of how the economy will fare in the immediate future. Again, from President Lockhart:
"The housing sector also has indirect impacts on the economy. In particular, the direction of home prices is important for the economy because changes in home prices affect the health of both household and bank balance sheets. …
"The indirect influence of the housing sector on consumer activity and bank lending would almost certainly aggravate housing's impact on growth."
Here's hoping my chart is more predictive of housing prices than the alternative.
Update: The Calculated Risk blog does a thorough job and concludes that we don't have "to choose between real prices and price-to-rent graphs to ask 'how far out of line are house prices?' I think they are both showing that prices are not far above the historical lows."
Update: The Big Picture's Barry Ritholtz points me to his earlier argument against reliance on price-rent ratios.
By Dave Altig
senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
May 13, 2011 in Economic Growth and Development, Forecasts, Housing, Real Estate | Permalink
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I am trying to sell a house myself right now, and was shocked at the crash in housing values we see in our area (midwest). I'm seeing projections of 25% - 33% loss of value since 2006.
Unfortunately, I think prices have a ways to go before bottoming out. In my area, there are 18 months of housing stock on the market right now. We're competing with cheap foreclosures and short sales (both are at historic highs right now, I believe). In 2004, it took about 30 days to sell a house. Now it takes about 250 days. Try selling when you need to move immediately for a job opportunity.
Linking housing prices to rents might work in the "normal" environment. But we're so far outside of normal now that I think you're over-optimistic in your projections.
What historical period has had such a number of underwater mortgages? And isn't that all thanks to the models that assumed housing prices never diminished?
Economic models need to be revised to reflect current reality. Using a model that "is not the most sophisticated of calculations" won't get us out of this catastrophe. But it's certainly nice wishful thinking....
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Main Street Muse |
May 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM
As long as we live in a world where interest rates never deviate from the current level, then "prices are in line with rent" If, however, for any reason interest rates may move towards long term trend lines...then it would be prudent to look at prices as a derivative of interest rates...in which case they are probably still far higher than a "normal" market could bare.
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Jay |
May 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM
My neck of the woods, Sonoma, Calif property provides an indication of what direction other markets might experience when if ever foreclosure/distressed homes become a small percentage of the market. My upscale 55+ area has a good number of homes for sale and few are selling, prices continue to decline slowly but on a steady pace. Economist and others expect prices to hold or go up once the foreclosure process has run its course but the reality is that home prices are way out of line with income including price rent ratios. When using a price rent ratio use 100 times monthly rent as a baseline to get a good idea what local home prices should be. In my area most of these homes rent for about $1600 a month and owners try and sell between 350K and 500K, so based on the rent market these homes need to sell in the 160K range which is a long way from there bubble high of 650K or even current market prices which reflects a slow market. Maybe when and if these properties get down to reasonable price rent ratios they will sell.
Posted by:
Ron Caldwell |
May 13, 2011 at 04:30 PM
House price to rent is analogous to stock P/E ratio, and we know this can spend long periods of time well distant from its average value. So how much overshoot might we expect?
Posted by:
dunkelblau |
May 13, 2011 at 07:10 PM
"Here's hoping my chart is more predictive of housing prices than the alternative."
Isn't there something odd about senior employees of the Federal Reserve, the institution charged with primary responsibility for preserving the purchasing power of our currency, cheering (asset price) inflation?
Posted by:
PatR |
May 13, 2011 at 07:52 PM
Over and over again analysts use price/rent as if RENT was some kind of cosmic truth telling measure of value. Rents are quite volatile. Every bit as volatile as housing prices (if not more so). They very tremendously even within a small geographic area. The types and quality of rental housing also varies depending on when properties were built.
RIGHT NOW RENTS ARE WAY UP (in many areas) and vacancies are down. This is out of line with historical employment vs rent trends. These high rents obviously distort the price/rent ratio and there is no reason whatsoever to imagine that rent levels provide more truth of value than the housing prices themselves.
Posted by:
Max Rockbin |
May 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM
I think the above comments are a better indicator of what is really happening in today's real estate market than are models based upon historical data that is not likely to be repeated anytime soon.
I use proprietary software from foreclosureradar.com (I have no financial interest in the site) and the volume of REO inventory, both current and in the pipeline is staggering in California. As short sales and REO re-sales re-set the comparable prices, sellers are being forced to accept lower and lower prices because their homes otherwise won't appraise at the contracted sales price.
Based upon this data, prices are now back to 2000 and the "deals" can be had for 1996 prices. I suspect we have a few more years, and perhaps another recession, before it will be time again to buy.
Posted by:
Jeff Goodrich |
May 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM
The interesting thing about price to rent measures is how different they are geographically. The areas that are clearly in a housing oversupply situation are incredibly cheap to buy vs rent (think of renting as buying plus buying a put on the house struck at the market) whereas other areas that are in "relative" equilibrium are not at all cheap on a buy vs rent measure. As an example take a look on zillow at the price of a three bedroom house in Dearborn Mi. How this all sorts itself out will be an interesting experiment. In the absence of easy (IE: high LTV-No doc) lending, the most reasonable hypothesis is much lower prices.
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Steve Fulton |
May 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM
In parts of metro-Denver, rents are above my value to rent formula: value/income = 1 percent. I have used this formula for over 40 years so I haven't purchased but only a few Denver properties in the last 20 years. Now I am purchasing properties again but one has to be keenly aware of declining value neighborhoods and rising expenses but property taxes are declining.
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ron glandt |
May 14, 2011 at 12:37 PM
@Main Street Muse. The price to rent ratio is just that, a ratio independent of interest rates at the time. I believe your suggestion is more in line of a housing affordability index, which takes into consideration the interest rate and therefore monthly payment at the time. Using that measure of affordability, buying a house is actually more affordable now than in the past because of current low rates. In other words, we are back to long term trend in price to rent ratio, but still below long term trend in interest rates, which indicates we have some padding to absorb an increase to historical 7%.
Another thought about the "bottom." Distressed properties pulling prices down significantly. Agreed. But, doesn't the price of new construction ultimately determine the long term "price point" of the market with "used" homes selling on average 15-20% below new construction for the same quality and square footage? Assuming a continued expansion in the population, the recycling of current inventory, or washing out of the shadow inventory will only last so long before new houses must be built. New construction has an absolute cost in terms of labor and commodities. Would be interesting to see a trend line of the cost of new construction per square foot over time.
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Virginia |
May 14, 2011 at 04:15 PM
Property prices in desirable parts of California probably will never stabilize at 100 months rent because of combination of premiums buyers are willing to pay and the distortions caused by prop 13. However, long-term prices have tracked around 4x income and hit around 10x during the bubble. So that might predict a $650K bubble house going for about $250k
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doug liser |
May 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Erik Hurst from the University of Chicago uses a different methodology than Case-Schiller. He says CS overstates moves.
Based on his predictions of a couple of years ago, we only have around 10% left on a macro basis. Individual markets might be different.
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Jeff Carter |
May 15, 2011 at 11:19 AM
ACCOUNT FOR DEMOGRAPHICS THO AND A BULL DOZER FOR AS MANY AS 50 PERCENT OF THE HOUSES IS NOT A UNREALITY UNLESS THE NEO CULTURALISM OF IMMIGRATION IS ADDED
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MILE |
May 16, 2011 at 12:27 AM
I am rather puzzled as to what the rent valuations are based on. AFIK there is no mechanism that requires landlords to report to any centralized statistical agency what rents their tenants are actually paying, along with information that would permit comparison to actual sale prices for comparable homes. Here in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, at bubble peak there were hardly any single-family homes for rent, and none comparable to mid- to high-end properties. Homes that in the past might have been rentals had been bought up by flippers and were being rehabbed -- or torn down to be replaced with million-dollar McMansions.
Now, there is a glut of homes for rent, but nearly all at prices that reflect not what the market will pay, but rather what the homeowner needs to pay their mortgage and taxes. As the owners are not business-people and are in a state of denial, they refuse to lower the asking rent, preferring zero income to any income less than mortgage plus taxes. So one finds the same homes on the MLS rental pages six months, nine months, or even more. Recently, one sees an occasional reduction in asking rent --- but not enough to move the property. I suspect that many of the homes that have disappeared from the MLS rental listings have disappeared not because they were rented, but because they were finally foreclosed upon. But if they were rented, I suspect it was at a monthly rate well below the asking rent.
So if the rents used for the price-to-rent ratio calculation are the MLS asking rents, they are probably significantly overstated.
Moreover, since the market is obviously not clearing at the rents being currently being asked, actual rents will have to end up significantly lower than the rents currently being paid for the homes that do rent, if the additional homes (which are effectively a "shadow inventory") are ever going to actually be rented.
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jm |
May 16, 2011 at 03:24 AM
Zillow is half the problem. They estimate my house on the basis of never seeing it, nor ever seeing the improvements I've made. They have a statistical model they follow, but I own a ranch house on a full ace, and in my area there are probably 1 or 2 similar houses for sale, so there is no statistically valid sample to put into their model.
The other half is the estimators that do the same thing. They don't look at a house, they don't have a valid statistical sample, so there numbers are irrelevant.
The value of a house is what a buyer and seller say it is. The only other basis to use is build or rebuild cost. So, let's be honest, the system is the problem.
If you really want to solve he problem, reenact Glass Steagall, thereby forcing the banks to lend money in order to make a profit instead of gambling on derivatives. They don't lend, they die. As Ben Johnson said, "The prospect of hanging has a way of concentrating the mind."
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Don Hiorth |
May 16, 2011 at 08:30 AM
@Virginia - "Using that measure of affordability, buying a house is actually more affordable now than in the past because of current low rates."
If you are a first time buyer, this could be an okay time to buy - but prices are still significantly higher than in the late 1990s, and it seems that they will continue to decline through the next 12 - 18 months. And employment uncertainties/wage stagnation could make buying a bit tricky today.
If you are NOT a first time buyer, but a homeowner looking to sell, the price to rent ratio is irrelevant. The market value of your home has tanked significantly in the last few years. That's a serious decline in the net worth of a middle-class home owner.
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Main Street Muse |
May 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM
But when bubbles burst don't prices normally overshoot to the downside? If house prices are "average" now, wouldn't this suggest that they still have a lot further to fall?
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John Smith |
May 17, 2011 at 07:17 AM
The price/rent ratio probably should not compare the price to rent of equivalent houses. I am a renter now, but if I ever do decide to buy a house, I would buy a house much larger than the one I am renting now.
Posted by:
skr |
May 31, 2011 at 05:15 PM
May 11, 2011
Is housing hurting the recovery?
Though the week is only half over, I'm going to nominate Stan Humphries and Zillow as bearers of the week's most distressing economic news:
"Home values fell three percent in the first quarter of this year, marking a pace of decline not seen since 2008 when the housing recession was at its worst. Home values fell one percent between February and March and 8.2 percent from March 2010."
Calculated Risk provides a handy table of how prices have affected equity values in homes by locale, as the Zillow Real Estate Research blog predicts the price-decline end is not so near:
"Previously, we anticipated a bottom in home values by the end of 2011. But with values falling by about 1 percent per month so far, it's unlikely that will happen. We now believe a bottom will come in 2012, at the earliest."
At The Curious Capitalist, on the other hand, Stephen Gandel says he's not so sure:
"To be sure, housing prices have fallen this year. But the Zillow numbers out today make the housing market look worse than it is. The problem is with how Zillow tracks home prices. Unlike other measures of the housing market, Zillow's numbers are not based on actual sales, but on estimates of what its model thinks your house, along with every other house in America is worth. Zillow's model is similar to how an appraiser figures out what your house is worth. It looks at past sales of houses that are similar to yours and then guesses what your house is worth. But by the time those sales are fed into Zillow's system they are months old. … If the housing market is turning, Zillow is going to miss it."
Is the housing market turning, particularly with respect to prices? Tough to say. If you want your glass half full, these words from the New York Fed's Liberty Street Economics might be the tonic for your tastes:
"This post gives our summary of the 2011:Q1 Quarterly Report on Household Debt and Credit, released today by the New York Fed. The report shows signs of healing in household balance sheets in the United States and the region, as measured by consumer debt levels, delinquency rates, foreclosure starts, and bankruptcies…
"Delinquency rates are generally down…
"New foreclosures fell nationally and in the region. About 368,000 individuals in the United States had a foreclosure notation added to their credit report between December 31 and March 31, a 17.7 percent decrease from the 2010:Q4 level. New foreclosure rates fell from 0.19 percent to 0.15 percent for all individuals nationwide…"
What may be the most important aspect of the report is highlighted by the Financial Times's Robin Harding: "…fewer new mortgages going bad, and some bad mortgages getting better." In fact, for the first time since the crisis began, the percentage of mortgages transitioning from 30 to 90 days delinquent to current exceeds the percentage transitioning to seriously delinquent (90-plus days).
There is, of course, plenty of material for the housing-price bears. For example, the flow of seriously delinquent mortgages is quite elevated.
According to estimates from CoreLogic, the supply of "distressed" homes is greater than 15 months at the current pace of sales:
Kevin Drum thinks this all adds up to problems for the recovery (hat tip Free Exchange):
"Most analysts now expect that the housing market won't bottom out until sometime next year. Until that happens, it's unlikely that that the sluggish economic recovery we're seeing right now will improve much."
The view here at the Atlanta Fed—and the answer to the question posed in the title of this post—was provided earlier today by our president, Dennis Lockhart, in a speech given to the Atlanta Council for Quality Growth:
"…can we have high-quality growth while the residential real estate and commercial real estate sectors continue to be so weak? Not completely, in my opinion. The recovery will progress, but it will not be robust until we work through the economy's serious imbalances, including those in the real estate sector.
"As I look ahead, I think the most reasonable assumption is that improvement of the real estate sector will lag an otherwise improving economy. But I am encouraged by the fact that the economy is increasingly on firmer footing."
I will let you decide whether that glass is half-empty or half-full.
By Dave Altig
senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
May 11, 2011 in Economic Growth and Development, Forecasts, Housing, Real Estate | Permalink
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the accelerating decline in housing prices is really old news, and its not just zillow that's been reporting it; corelogic reported a 1.5% decline in March, which put their index 4.6% below the 2009 lows; the NAR index has fallen 7% YTD, and is also 4.6% below last years reading; and just last week, clear capital declared an official double dip, after their index fell 4.9% from the previous quarter and 5.0% YoY...
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rjs |
May 12, 2011 at 05:49 AM
I'm voting for half empty. And I think it will take more than just a year before housing recovers to the point it will have a significant positive impact on the economy. So I’m projecting a slow choppy recovery for the U.S. economy.
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Phil Aust |
May 16, 2011 at 11:44 AM
US government has stimulate the economy with 4.5 trillions of dollars or so and its only stimulated the economy half cos it bail out the big co. only . The main contributor of US economy , consumers are left in debt . They need to be bailed out so that economy will be balanced.
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Win |
May 24, 2011 at 12:29 AM
I'm going to have to agree with the half empty comment. I think it is true that we are a long ways away from the economy going up. Not only is housing suffering, but business owners as well. Hopefully change will come soon.
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Stephanie |
June 01, 2011 at 03:07 PM
Another hand for half empty. It's really hard to recover from economic downfall. I don't think housing is the mainstream of this. Rapid growth of population and cost cutting also affect the chance of regaining it back.
Posted by:
makati for rent |
August 03, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Im agree with the half empty comment and also the rapid growth of population and cost cutting affect of our economy downfall.
Posted by:
cavite housing |
August 22, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Housing has definitely hurt our economy, people are unable to pay rents and loans of there houses
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iphone 6 |
February 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM
September 10, 2010
Policy may have created the housing bubble, but which policy is to blame?
There is little dispute that misguided policy choices led to the housing boom-bust cycle from which we are still recovering. The debate about which policies were most culpable, however, rages on. The latest chapter in this dispute is now available in the proceedings from this year's edition of the Kansas City Fed's Jackson Hole Economic Policy Symposium.
In defense of monetary policy, Charles Bean, Matthias Paustian, Adrian Penalver, and Tim Taylor—all of the Bank of England—write this:
"We argue that while relatively low policy rates compared to past experience contributed to the growth in credit and the rise in house prices in the run-up to the crisis, they played only a modest direct role."
Stanford University's John Taylor (still) isn't buying it:
"Their conclusion differs from mine for several reasons. First, they do not take account of much empirical work completed since the 2007 Jackson Hole conference. For example, Jarocinski and Smets (2008) of the European Central Bank estimated a VAR [vector autoregression] for the United States and found evidence that 'monetary policy has significant effects on housing investment and house prices and that easy monetary policy designed to stave off perceived risks of deflation in 2002-04 has contributed to the boom in the housing market in 2004 and 2005.' In a more recent study focusing directly on deviations from policy rules, Kahn (2010) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City finds that ‘When the Taylor rule deviations are excluded from the forecasting equation, the bubble in housing prices looks more like a bump.' "
I added the links to the papers cited by Taylor because they are thoughtful challenges by thoughtful people, and they deserve to be considered (though the Jaroconski and Smets article requires some tolerance of relatively sophisticated econometrics). That insightfulness, of course, does not mean they are completely persuasive; I still have my doubts.
Most of you are familiar with this picture of the "Taylor rule" referenced above—which prescribes a funds rate target based on the deviations of output from its potential and the deviation of inflation from a presumed target of 2 percent—compared with the actual path of the policy rate:
Bean et al. make note of a speech from the beginning of the year by Chairman Bernanke in which he in turn notes (among other things) that the period in which policy deviates from this particular Taylor rule is also a period in which the lending standards were dramatically relaxed. To give but one example, data collected by my colleague Kris Gerardi indicate that in Massachusetts the median loan to value ratios (LTVs) for all borrowers rose from 0.82 in 2000 to 0.9 in 2006. For subprime borrowers, LTVs rose during that period from 0.85 to 1.0. The statistical results cited in Taylor's response do not control for such developments, making it difficult to come to a strong causal conclusion.
Second, this observation (from the Bean et al. paper) introduces even more uncertainty regarding the robustness of the chain of events leading from low interest rates to the housing bubble:
"Chart 1 shows that both UK and euro-area policy rates were less noticeably out of line with their respective Taylor benchmarks. That too is striking. Indeed, in the United Kingdom, they were actually above the benchmark for much of the relevant period, even though the United Kingdom saw one of the larger run-ups in debt and house prices during this period. And, in the euro area, countries such as Spain experienced substantial house price booms, while countries such as Germany did not. That need not imply that monetary policy was innocent in the run-up to the crisis…But this is hardly compelling evidence for assigning the central role to monetary policy, suggesting that other factors were more important."
As the Bank of England authors suggest, monetary policy was not necessarily innocent. But at a minimum, it's worth keeping in mind that the monetary policy transmission mechanism is a good bit more complicated than any simple story would indicate.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
September 10, 2010 in Housing, Monetary Policy | Permalink
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The Sugarscape work of the Santa Fe Institute, shows that markets generate purely endogenous bubbles and busts. Indeed, so does any market model that assumes that rational arbitrageurs may recognize the limits of fundamental arbitrage and instead bet with market movements -- thus accentuating them rather than dampening them. That kind of self-referential behavior makes markets work like herds, and herds stampede.
In other words, bubbles and busts are market phenomena, pure and simple. Policy may do a better or worse job of PREVENTING them, but the bubble itself is just markets acting the way markets act.
The continuing search for a governmental cause to the failure of private sector markets is deeply disappointing. It indicates that the searchers are still living in their Reaganaut fantasy of a market that can do no wrong and a government that can do no right. That ideology blinded the regulators to the bubble last time, and if it is not discarded, it will deceive them again the next time.
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Daniel G |
September 12, 2010 at 07:22 PM
One of the strongest arguments against Fed monetary policy, or any federal government policy, as an important housing bubble culprit is the fact that the housing bubble was not a national, or even really regional, phenomena.
Florida, for example, had an intense housing bubble, but Georgia, next door to it, with a similarly growing economic base, did not.
California had an intense housing bubble, but Colorado and Illinois did not.
The policy that really stands out in most of the states that had severe housing bubbles that then collapsed was the presence of non-recourse residential mortgage laws, or laws that were perceived as being non-recourse.
The handful of exceptions, like Arizona and Nevada, probably represent cases of real estate wealth acquired by Californians where there was a non-recourse lending driven housing boom being rolled over to neighboring states where speculative investment and housing for retirees paid for with proceeds of California home sales make up a large share of the market.
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ohwilleke |
September 13, 2010 at 04:38 PM
California had an intense housing bubble, but Colorado and Illinois did not.
I feel like I'm in that scene in Aliens where Ripley says "Did IQs suddenly drop while I was away??"
Bubbles appeared wherever suicide lending was allowed to happen.
Effective interest rates were dropped to 0-1% via 2 and 5 year teaser-rate ARMs and even negative-am products.
Back-end ratios were abandoned with the acceptance of either explicit liar loans or the connivance of mortgage brokers committing fraud to get their commission.
Down payment standards were abandoned with the innovation of the 103% loan.
The 2001-2003 tax cuts didn't hurt in instantly juicing everyone's buying power several hundred dollars a month.
All these inputs coalesced into a bubble run-up 2002-2004 that encouraged and funded REIC insiders to buy as many houses as they could to profit from the bubble trend.
Additionally, the bubble run-up was liberating HUNDREDS of billions of dollars a quarter of home equity credit via HELOC advances and drawdowns, money that was funding both real estate investment and household spending that supported the economic feel-good times that kept the bubble rolling.
I was outside the industry and not plugged in 2003-2005 so I didn't really understand these factors, but once the Casey Serin story (20-something loser able to take out $2.2M in liar loans 2005-2006) broke in late 2006 I understood that we were looking at a several trillion dollar bubble fraud that was perpetrated by the very simple mechanism of abject abandonment of historical lending underwriting standards.
This ain't rocket science! People will borrow as much money as you are willing to lend them!
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HHMSDODNS
And lend we did, 2002-2007.
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Troy |
September 13, 2010 at 10:40 PM
The FED's always at fault. If the FED's technical staff had to pass a test of their knowledge they would all fail.
Why? Because it is a scientific fact that economic prognostications are mathematically infallible.
You don't know how, so you fail.
The housing bubble is especially easy to understand and forecast. All the demand drafts drawn on the money creating depository institutions clear through DDs – except those drawn on MSBs, interbank and the U.S. government.
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flow5 |
September 15, 2010 at 03:40 PM
You might look at the recent article by Krugman and Wells. They argue that the foreign savings glut was more central than loose monetary policies of the Fed or the ECB, and more central than lax financial market regulation. That has long been my own view, so it was nice to see it supported from such a respectable source. The reasons they give for their conclusion are the same as those I gave in numerous posts over the last couple of years. For those who argue that it was primarily monetary policy, they need to explain differences within the euro area, as well as Greenspan's 'conundrum' about long term rates staying low after the Fed started to tighten.
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don |
September 15, 2010 at 09:43 PM
Saw an argument from Fama that there were not any bubbles at all.
The savings glut referenced by Krugman has had nothing to do with it. It was low interest rates by the FED, and the backstop of Fannie and Freddie.
Loans could be written with reckless abandon. I recall an article in Barron's around 2003 about the danger of no interest loans. Maybe they should have written about no doc loans too!
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Jeff |
September 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM
It turns out Keynes had it right concerning bubbles of all kinds: When too much money gets into the hands of too few people, their attempts to do anything with their excess cash will necessarily result in some kind of bubble. (If they were to merely put it into savings instruments they would be shooting themselves in the feet by causing interest rates paid to decline.) The fundamental causes of our present predicament really are a replay of the 1920's: a spurt in productivity created increased profits that the controllers of wages and salaries hogged for themselves, while the workers (perhaps expecting that they would surely get their share soon) participated in the general economic boom by using credit to increase present consumption. Keynes's analysis was pragmatic, not moral: Capitalism works best when there is a large, financially healthy middle class, who can consume a lot, save a little, and perhaps put a bit in equities. That's why we need very high marginal tax rates, to use the money collected to subsidize the middle class (transportation, education, housing--dare I say it, health care). While in gangsta capitalism a few people can become wealthy enough to be above personal ruin no matter what, even most wealthy people are better off with a Keynesian approach, as their wealth ultimately depends on a large pool of viable consumers.
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tall cotton |
September 23, 2010 at 08:48 AM
First, permit me to admit that I am out of my league and should not have the temerity to comment. But, having observed the real estate market for decades, it is not possible to describe what the United States has just been through in the lead up to the Great Recession as a mere market bubble. Nothing like this has been seen before. Rather, the "savings glut" appears to be the best explanation for the unusual market phenomena. In the end, some person or entity must have the money to loan to borrowers to pay ever-increasing large amounts for the housing stock. In essence, it was inflation within a particular asset. Would it be fair to say that, de facto, the Chinese have, by virtue of their surplus in the form of immense U.S. bond holdings, become a second "central bank" for the U.S. economy, able to infuse money supply as suggested by Krugman and Wells? I agree that in some ways, to quote "Troy" it is not "rocket science." There were horrific lending practices. But from whence came the funds to endlessly lend to whomever asked for money? And perhaps it was also a combination of many of the factors identified by the comentors that caused this endless flow of loanable funds to drive prices to their absurd levels, well beyond the means of ordinary income to simply sustain the debt.
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mme |
September 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM
The RE bubble formed because the FED under Greenspan decided that investment banks rather than the central bank should provide liquidity via expansion of an unregulated derivatives market as well as the erosion of banking capital and reserve requirements (as instituted under the Basel accords). The adoption of adjustable rate mortgages, the abrogation of Glass-Steagall, and the excesses of the Financial Modernization Act completed the gutting of any management and regulation of the financial system.
The FED is primarily concerned with the profitability of the banking industry, not the stability and well being of the general economy. As such, it will continue to support increased credit and higher debt/GDP levels until no sector of the economy can service its debt load regardless of the market manipulation exercised.
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MarkS |
October 06, 2010 at 12:37 PM
In my opinion the reason was alluded to in your post, THE GROWTH OF CREDIT
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TCMDO
Total debt / gdp has been rising for years and exceeded the peaks of the 1929 crash many years ago.
The rising debt/ gdp ratio manifested itself with a housing bubble.
If you are looking for why housing, employment and other economic indicators are not recovering look to the debt / gdp ratio. The economy is saturated with debt and consumers are concentrating on reducing their debt levels.
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Greg Merrill |
October 12, 2010 at 05:07 PM
November 20, 2009
Housing back in the news
Housing back in the news
Two reports released this week remind us of the difficulties still confronting the residential real estate market. First, the consumer price index (CPI) showed continued moderation. Yes, the overall number was up 3.4 percent on a monthly annualized basis, and even the core measure ticked up 2.2 percent. But over half of the core rise was related to rising new and used car prices following the expiration of the cash-for-clunkers program. The Cleveland Fed's median CPI, which isn't influenced by these outliers, was up only 1.2 percent and still suggestive of some considerable disinflationary pressure.
What does the CPI have to do with housing? Well, the shelter component of the index, which is derived largely from rents, was unchanged and has risen only 0.7 percent over the past year (see chart below). This performance represents unprecedented lows for this, the largest of the major CPI categories, and is a good indication of the downward price pressures being felt in the residential housing market.
More directly related to the state of housing was Tuesday's report on new home starts, which dropped sharply. Starts fell 10.6 percent in October, a surprising decline for a series that appeared to bottom out in April and stabilize in recent months. But perhaps a few bumps along the road to recovery are to be expected.
Some say that the falloff in new home construction last month was likely the result of uncertainty over the continuation of the first-time homebuyers program. That's a possibility, but here's something else to consider: There may be a lot more housing inventory out there than the official numbers suggest.
In recent months it appears that home prices as measured by the S&P/Case-Shiller Index have stabilized and begun to improve while home sales have picked up notably and listing inventories of new and existing homes have fallen. However, these listing inventories fail to capture a large share of the market including homes for sale by owner, potential buyers on the sideline waiting to see improvement, and foreclosure properties that have not yet made it to market but likely will eventually.
RealtyTrac reported that foreclosure activity slowed for the third straight month in October, down 3 percent from the previous month. However, those receiving notices of defaults increased 2 percent after declining 12 percent the prior month. Bottom line, foreclosure filings remain at high levels.
Amherst Securities released a report in September that took a stab at calculating the current shadow inventory of foreclosure properties using the Truilia listing database. In light of increased sales and slowing foreclosure filings, let's see how things are going:
Comparing the September report and the November numbers, we see that listing inventories declined 3 percent, which is to be expected with the pick-up in existing home sales numbers that the National Association of Realtors has been reporting in recent months. However, the shadow inventory of foreclosed homes grew by 9 percent (real estate owned, or REO, properties grew by 4 percent), helping to drive total inventory up 2 percent from September to November.
Homebuilding was a driving force in the economy in the years leading into the recession. Looking forward, though, the homebuilding industry is continuing to face significant obstacles, including inventory challenges. Those challenges translate into homebuilders being understandably wary to move ahead on new construction until foreclosures and REO inventories measurably subside. Thus, the homebuilding challenge continues.
By Whitney Mancuso, senior economic research analyst, and Mike Bryan, vice president, both in the Atlanta Fed's research department
November 20, 2009 in Data Releases, Housing, Inflation | Permalink
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Erik Hurst, Econ Professor at Chicago predicted last year around this time that housing prices would drop 20-30% this year, and then another 10% the next year. This is on a nation wide macro basis.
The figures show that he is pretty close to right. There seems to be increased housing supply, not necessarily new starts, but existing homes coming on the market.
Unemployment is not helping. This doesn't look rosy for next year.
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Jeff |
November 21, 2009 at 02:03 PM
February 24, 2009
Foreclosure mitigation: What we think we know
One of the most important challenges facing policymakers today is reducing the rate of mortgage foreclosures. It is a goal many think is at the heart of a sustained recovery in the U.S. economy. But as past attempts to reduce financial stress on homeowners have shown, the task is not easy. One of the complicating factors in formulating successful foreclosure mitigation policy is getting at the heart of the relationship between negative equity (the situation where the remaining mortgage balance is greater than the value of the house) and actual foreclosure.
Economic theory poses one categorical prediction about this relationship, which is that negative equity is a necessary condition for default. In other words, if a borrower is not in a position of negative equity, then he or she should never default. This conclusion follows simply from the fact that positive equity implies a borrower can sell the house, pay off the mortgage, and keep the difference—a better outcome under any circumstance compared with stopping payment on the mortgage and leaving the home.
What economic theory does not say is that if a borrower has negative equity, he or she should always default. The reason for this is that the owner could always default in the future, and thus there is value in waiting to see if house prices recover. Now, this value to waiting differs across borrowers and is sensitive to both the depth of negative equity and a borrower's financial situation. Why does a borrower's financial health matter? Well, the cost of waiting includes the monthly mortgage payment the borrower must continue to make. Borrowers who have plenty of wealth and a steady stream of income will be more willing to continue making payments than borrowers who are in financial distress, perhaps related to an unemployment spell or some other adverse financial shock.
So why does all of this matter in terms of thinking about a successful foreclosure mitigation program? Well, the appropriate policy prescription depends on the particular reason a borrower is currently considering default. I think it is useful to break things down in terms of three (not necessarily mutually exclusive) groups of mortgage borrowers:
- those in unaffordable mortgages from the very beginning, who were implicitly relying on increasing house prices to refinance or sell for a profit;
- those who have been hit by an adverse, but temporary, income/financial shock; and
- those who purchased the house for strictly investment purposes and now see little or no hope of making a profit.
Borrowers may find themselves with unaffordable mortgages for many reasons. One might be an unscrupulous mortgage broker, who steered the borrower into an unaffordable subprime loan in order to generate high origination fees. Another, related situation would be an unaffordable interest rate reset on a subprime adjustable-rate mortgage. Finally, some mortgages may be permanently unaffordable because a buyer misrepresented income or assets during the origination process, a situation made easier by the growth of low documentation mortgages.
A large part of the administration's new housing plan—summarized succinctly by the New York Times, with lots of commentary (negative and positive) rounded up at Economist's View—is reasonably interpreted as being directed squarely at borrowers in the unaffordable-mortgage group. If policy is to be aimed at helping this group, the prescription is to offer the borrower a permanent reduction in monthly payments, whether it comes from lowering the interest rate, lengthening the maturity, and/or reducing the outstanding principal balance on the loan. The measuring stick often used in such plans is the debt-to-income ratio (DTI), which is the borrower's monthly mortgage and/or total required debt payments relative to his or her gross monthly income. While the administration's plan would succeed in lowering DTIs, the policy is temporary in nature (five years), and it is unclear what would happen to these borrowers after the plan runs its course—especially if negative equity is still an issue.
Many borrowers might have been able to afford their mortgages while employed but can no longer do so after they have lost their jobs. When housing prices are rising and homeowners enjoy positive equity, then distressed borrowers are able to sell their homes to pay off their mortgages. Alternatively, such borrowers can undertake cash-out refinances to gain some much-needed liquidity. Note that problems can occur for people in this situation even when positive future equity is a realistic hope. If the borrower is unemployed and liquidity constrained, the cost of waiting to default is very high and potential future price gains are of little value. Default in this case is much more likely, even though future prospects might be reasonably good. In this case, foreclosure-prevention policy could simply be used to eliminate the financial friction. In this case a lender would offer "forbearance," in which the borrower pays significantly lower payments for some period, with the arrears made up (with interest) later on. In this light, it is notable that the administration's key payment reduction plan has a five-year window.
However, one important concern regarding the plan is that servicers/investors don't have enough incentives to substantially decrease current DTI ratios. For example, if a household has a DTI of 60 or 70 because of a job loss, the servicer is responsible for modifying the loan to get DTI down to 38 and then still has to kick in a 50 percent match to further reduce it to 31. The costs borne by the servicer/investor are much larger than those borne by the government, which may not be such a bad thing in principal but in practice may result in low participation rates.
Note also that while permanent relief is the prescribed course for borrowers in the unaffordable-mortgage group, temporary relief is indicated for those in the temporary economic distress group. This highlights the difficulties in constructing policies when the underlying sources of stress differ by individual. The existence of a class of borrowers that purchased and financed residential real estate primarily for investment purposes further complicates matters. People in this group are in much different circumstances than those in the other groups and will default much more ruthlessly. A so-called "ruthless defaulter" has given up hope of positive future equity and hence there are no potential price gains to value. Under the theory of ruthless default, one effective policy intervention is to lower the outstanding balance of the mortgage so that positive equity—or even the hope of positive equity in the near future—is restored. Alternatively, the lender could forestall default at least temporarily by cutting the monthly payment below the cost of renting an otherwise observable house.
Aimed as it is at owner-occupied housing, the administration's plan does not offer direct assistance to those in the investment class. That may not be too surprising, as it is hard to generate much political sympathy for a group carrying a label like "ruthless defaulter." In addition, the perverse incentives of government assistance that usually go by the name of moral hazard are arguably more severe for individuals who purchase properties for investment purposes. However, abandoned properties do add to the stock of unsold homes, independent of who owned them or why they owned them. This does not necessarily argue for policy relief for investment buyers, but it is potential issue that bears watching.
Finally, there may be commentators with the view that loan modifications are a failing proposition as a few studies have shown extremely high default rates on modifications performed in early 2008 (for example, see OCC and OTS Mortgage Metrics Report, Third Quarter 2008). But, according to the table below (based on my calculations), the problem seems to be that the wrong type of modification was being performed. Approximately two-thirds of the modifications performed by servicers in the first two quarters of 2008 had the effect of increasing the principal balance of the mortgage and, as a result, also increased the borrower's monthly mortgage payment. In light of the above discussion, we should not be surprised by high re-default rates on these loans. On the other hand, there is reason to believe that successful implementation of payment reduction programs may indeed help to stem the pace of foreclosures.
| # Loans Modified |
Interest Rate Reductions |
Principal Balance Reductions |
Principal Balance Increases |
Term Extensions |
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| # | % total |
# | % total |
# | % total |
# | % total |
||
| Q107 | 13,900 | 200 | 1.25 | 600 | 3.75 | 13,100 | 81.88 | 2,100 | 13.13 |
| Q207 | 21,600 | 700 | 3.00 | 200 | 0.86 | 20,700 | 88.84 | 1,700 | 7.30 |
| Q307 | 24,600 | 700 | 2.55 | 300 | 1.09 | 23,600 | 86.13 | 2,800 | 10.22 |
| Q407 | 32,300 | 3,600 | 9.65 | 1,000 | 2.68 | 28,000 | 75.07 | 4,700 | 12.60 |
| Q108 | 33,000 | 7,100 | 18.11 | 400 | 1.02 | 25,500 | 65.05 | 6,200 | 15.82 |
| Q208 | 41,200 | 10,600 | 22.36 | 900 | 1.90 | 30,100 | 63.50 | 5,800 | 12.24 |
| Q308 | 52,600 | 17,300 | 28.22 | 200 | 0.33 | 36,000 | 58.73 | 7,800 | 12.72 |
By Kristopher Gerardi, research economist and assistant policy adviser at the Atlanta Fed
February 24, 2009 in Fiscal Policy, Housing | Permalink
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"those in unaffordable mortgages from the very beginning, who were implicitly relying on increasing house prices to refinance or sell for a profit;
those who purchased the house for strictly investment purposes and now see little or no hope of making a profit."
I am one who would say that there should be no help for the people in these groups. They were gambling, purely, and should take their own losses. F- them, and investor-horses they rode in on.
And a question: you say, "The costs borne by the servicer/investor are much larger than those borne by the government, which may not be such a bad thing in principal but in practice may result in low participation rates." But isn't the relevant question, at least for servicers/investors, whether those costs are more than they would face if there were more foreclosures? Isn't that always the question for them in doing loan mods? If the servicers don't participate on those terms, aren't they then assuming that their foreclosure losses won't be that bad? I mean, I have no sympathy for the investors; they were careless, and should lose.
One of the things I object to in the mortgage bailout plan is the notion that the government can or should prevent house prices from falling further. The problem with this is that prices in many markets are still fairly inflated relative to incomes; that is, they're still basically unaffordable. As long as prices remain unaffordable, there are going to be a lot of foreclosures--it's just prolonging the pain. The only good long-term solution is to allow prices to reach a level that's actually affordable to buyers under normal (pre-bubble) credit standards. The housing market shouldn't get more stimulus--it should get less!
My wife and I make a decent, middle-class income, and yet we can't find reasonably affordable houses in our area. And now the government wants to use our tax money to make sure it stays that way! And to pay the mortgages of fools who got in over their heads. Do they understand why we might resent that a wee little bit?
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Moopheus |
February 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Could you please clarify why some loan modifications have resulted in increases in total principal balances and in monthly principal repayments? I suppose that an increase in the former could be OK if it were accompanied by a decrease in the latter (i.e., if cash flow was the dominant issue) and that an increase in the latter could be OK if it were accompanied by an decrease in the former (i.e., if negative equity was the dominant issue), but why on earth would a loan modification be expected to work if both the total principal balance and the monthly repayments increased? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Rich F |
February 24, 2009 at 01:20 PM
No, I answer my own question: the reason servicers and investors will resist participation in a deal in which they have to take a loss on the loan mod is they want to pressure the government to give them a better deal, and protect them against any loss. It would be a bad and stupid move for the government to give in to them, but the Fed and the Treasury seem to have a hard time saying no to Wall Street.
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Moopheus |
February 24, 2009 at 01:46 PM
Your entire premise is based on treating a symptom (foreclosures), rather than the cause (house prices). By any historical metric, house prices are too high (rent-price ratios, income-house price ratios, Case-Shiller, OFHEO, etc.). When house prices drop to prices that are affordable and cost competitive with other forms of shelter, a bottom will naturally form. Government intervention is not the right solution for this problem.
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uber_snotling |
February 24, 2009 at 04:35 PM
I have been waiting for the housing to becom affordable to me in my area, and have been renting since 2002. I have an above average income. Why should I pay for those who live in a big house that they cannot afford for while I'm still renting?
The key problem is the housing is still too expensive. The natural market force is driving down the price. Why does the government wants to keep it expensive? Why does the idiotic government want to waste tax money paid by those who are renting, in order to keep the housing expensive to these renters?
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alex |
February 24, 2009 at 05:20 PM
Hi Rich,
The reason why some payments go up on a loan mod is because the homeowner may have had a Pay Option ARM and was accruing negative equity.
When the payment is modified to a fixed rate loan, even if the rate is lower, the loan is now fully amortized.
I'm assuming that these homeowners actually READ their loan mod documents this time around but perhaps that's a false assumption.
If they couldn't afford the modified payment but signed anyways, this was just a step to buy the homeowner more time to possibly sell or to save up money before ruthlessly defaulting later.
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Jillayne Schlicke |
February 24, 2009 at 05:34 PM
"Could you please clarify why some loan modifications have resulted in increases in total principal balances and in monthly principal repayments?"
What happens in a lot of cases is not a real loan mod, but a repayment plan, where past due amounts are added to the principal, and the payments are readjusted (upward) to reflect the new balance. And you're right--it's not a great deal for the borrower, which is why these "mods" have a high rate of failure. The borrower stands a better chance if the amount of actual debt is reduced, but then the lender has to be willing to write off the difference.
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Moopheus |
February 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
"One of the most important challenges facing policymakers today is reducing the rate of mortgage foreclosures."
Dave, please can you explain WHY? If home ownership is at 'unsustainable levels', if debt/income ratios are 'too high', then why should policymakers prevent an adjustment? This is not intended to be partisan/political, I'm genuinely interested in the rationale behind your opening sentence. Thanks, MW.
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MW |
February 26, 2009 at 08:51 AM
Is there a way out of this mess. Let the finger pointing begin. All the Rep. are say :look at the Dems. they are screwing up!" But 8 years of asleep at the wheel can not be fixed overnight.
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Orlando |
February 28, 2009 at 04:44 PM
I second Moopheus...
I also want to know why is it good to keep house prices artificially high?
Also, if we were to help underwater homeowners (for the sake of saving the economy) this thing has to be done such that irresponsible homeowners profit at the expense of taxpayers. They need to give-up something in return. For instance, some "option value", such that if their house appreciate, they have to repay the government.
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FC |
March 02, 2009 at 08:16 PM
I think that the idea is that foreclosures represent a sort of collective action problem: Individual banks would like to foreclose and resell, but if everyone's doing it, prices are driven lower, more mortgages go underwater, and the cycle repeats. In today's market foreclosed homes often sit unoccupied, steadily losing value.
So by keeping people in their homes, even with modified loans, the banking system overall is better off. The goal is to stem the panic and reduce write-downs on toxic mortgage assets.
I've been wondering what would happen if, rather than setting up all of these hoops for homeowners and banks, the government simply imposed a temporary, $10,000 per foreclosure on banks per foreclosure? This would cost taxpayers nothing and would provide an incentive for banks to modify their own loans.
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Tom |
March 02, 2009 at 08:36 PM
I understand the logic of the $10,000 (or whatever amount) per foreclosure. This is a good idea. The only problem I see is that banks would factor in this expense in future morgages.
Anyway, and I know I am being repetitive, I do believe that current homeowners need to pay back any help received. Besides an "option" triggered by appreciation, another idea is to void the tax exemption on capital gains when selling the house for all homeowners who get relief from the government.
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FC |
March 03, 2009 at 01:42 PM
We can't artificially manipulate prices. We need the market to correct naturally.
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Brian Dickerson |
May 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I like your break out of the 3 different homeowner categories. We tend too often to lump all homeowners in need of loan modification into the same category. But sadly, I believe from all the horror stories I constantly hear form distressed home owners or former owners through my mortgage business that many, many lenders are much more proned to go the foreclosure route than to do what I believe is the right thing for both the home owner and the bank's bottom line.
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Ron Stone |
August 07, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I don't understand why banks don't take more measures to try to prevent foreclosure when it costs them a ton of money. It would be beneficial for the homeowners as well as the lenders.
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Gilbert |
November 26, 2009 at 12:12 PM
November 06, 2008
Underwater homeowners and foreclosure
One of the important policy questions that has developed from the recent turmoil in financial markets is, What steps should be taken to try and mitigate the rising tide of foreclosures? Many have identified “negative equity” as one of the primary culprits for the huge increase in foreclosures. Negative equity refers to the situation in which a homeowner would not be able to fully repay his mortgage from the proceeds of a sale. Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com, emphasizes the current role of negative equity in the housing crisis in a recent article.
There have been various policies put forth to try to address the negative equity issue. Perhaps the most popular is a widespread loan modification plan, in which lenders/servicers agree to write down or forgive a portion of the principal mortgage balance. A variation of this idea was included in the American Housing Rescue and Foreclosure Prevention Act of 2008. The specific plan was labeled a “rescue refinancing” package. This package consisted of a voluntary program in which a lender who agreed to write down the mortgage of a delinquent borrower to 85 percent of the current market value of the home could obtain a federal guarantee (through the FHA). The idea is basically that curing the problem of negative equity can solve the foreclosure problem.
It turns out that my colleague, Kris Gerardi, who recently joined the Atlanta Fed by way of the Boston Fed and Boston University, has conducted some research on this topic, which was discussed in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal.
“Christopher L. Foote, Kristopher Gerardi and Paul S. Willen of the Boston Federal Reserve Bank studied more than 100,000 homeowners who were underwater in Massachusetts in 1991 and found that just 6.4% of them lost their homes to foreclosure over the next three years, according to a paper published in the September issue of the Journal of Urban Economics (For non-subscribers, a version of the paper can be found on the Boston Fed’s working paper series). The vast majority of homeowners simply continued paying as usual because they focused on the affordability of their payments, not on what they owed, and they believed home values would eventually recover.”
“The economists found that homeowners typically lost their homes only after at least two things happened: Their home values dropped and they either couldn't afford the payments or they stopped making payments after losing hope that prices would eventually recover.”
In a follow-up article presented last week at a conference on “The Mortgage Meltdown, the Economy and Public Policy” at the University of California, Berkeley, Gerardi and Willen consider the principal write-down policy discussed above:
“Many commentators have recently argued that lenders should eliminate negative equity for borrowers in such a position by writing down a portion of the principal balance on their respective loans. The argument runs that such a plan benefits the lender as well because the new principal balance exceeds the yield from foreclosure once one takes into account the costs of foreclosure. Many commentators have argued that this solution is so obvious that one wonders why lenders do not implement it on a large scale.”
What are the potential pitfalls?
“Think of two mistakes a lender could make. One mistake is to not offer assistance to a borrower in distress. The lender loses here if the increased probability of foreclosure, and high costs incurred by foreclosure, make inaction more costly than assistance. We call this scenario “Type I Error.” But, there is another mistake, often overlooked, which is to assist a borrower who does not need the help. The lender loses here because it receives less in repayment from a borrower who would have paid off the mortgage in full. We refer to this case as ‘Type II Error.’”
That Type II error is, according to the authors, a nontrivial problem. Using their empirical results as a basis, they conduct the following thought experiment:
“Our policy experiment here is to lower the principal so that the borrower moves from 20 percent negative equity to 10 percent positive equity. Types I and II error and net gains are measured as a percentage of the original loan balance.”
The results, as the authors say, “illustrate both the limits and the opportunities for principal reduction”:
“For most groups, Type II error is large relative to Type I error. The reason is straightforward: most borrowers will repay their loan, even if they are in negative equity positions. For the subprime single-family borrower, a 33 percent foreclosure rate implies a 67 percent repayment rate.”
There may be resolutions to this problem, but they wouldn’t be easy:
“One potential criticism of the above argument is that one could minimize Type II error by requiring proof that a borrower is likely to default. However, as a practical matter, this would be extremely difficult to enforce. Tax documents and even credit reports in many cases would not suffice, as many borrowers in need of assistance are likely suffering from very recent adverse events. Instead, policymakers would need to obtain and verify current information on income, wealth, employment status, and perhaps even more personal events, such as marital status. This would be extremely costly. Furthermore, [our results] suggest that even if qualification requirements reduced Type II error by half … [the only group for which] principal reduction makes economic sense is the multi-family, subprime borrower.”
Basically Gerardi and Willen are arguing that the key to a successful principal write-down policy would be to target the borrowers who are at the most risk of defaulting (in the absence of any assistance). For these borrowers, Type I error is high, while Type II error is very low. Their example is an owner of a multifamily property who financed the purchase with a subprime mortgage. In the Northeast, 2-4 family units are very common, where there's one owner who usually (but not always) lives in one unit and then rents out the other units. Since many of these owners relied on rental income to stay current on the mortgage, they were very susceptible to foreclosure. Further, there is an obvious externality to foreclosure on these properties, as the tenants (who have nothing to do with the delinquent mortgage) are also affected by foreclosure.
This discussion, however, is not to say that efforts to help households facing foreclosure are not effective. In fact, many organizations, from nonprofits to the U.S. government, are working to assist borrowers who face foreclosure.
Tricky business, this.
By David Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
November 6, 2008 in Housing | Permalink
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The Federal mortgage plan and bailout would reward the reckless and punish the prudent.
Consider the lesson it imparts to promote bailouts to the reckless. City by city, neighborhood by neighborhood, people who live beneath their means and manage money carefully will see more careless neighbors supported by federal decree. And what about the 30 percent of this nation who were smart enough to rent? Or how about the large percentage of us who have been giving warnings out to these same people the government now wants to redistribute my taxes to so they can stay in a house twice the size the home I live in. Those who are current on mortgage payments, but still squeezed, may be tempted to let two or three payments slide, so they can negotiate money-saving terms on their own mortgages. The backlash to the 700 B bailout package was not only because of the bailout of wall street but also the bailout of the reckless homeowners and their relentless ATM/HELOC spending. As it is now these people can live in their home for over a year rent free while they find a home they should have been living in from the start.
We are becoming a nation of people who feel it is not only okay but justified to cheat, lie, and swindle each other and the rest of the population. Personal responsibility is discouraged by the government and the mainstream media. White collar crimes are rarely prosecuted because FBI is so stretched. Our nation is eating ourselves from within just to keep a facade of prosperity. Hope is being replaced by anger and desperation. Welcome to the new dawn.
Posted by:
ss |
November 07, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Indeed, almost no one seems to be addressing how the problem of widespread fraud has affected the foreclosure rate. Also, the fact that many foreclosures are likely not owner occupied--they're second homes and investment properties. Although it's not surprising to me if homeowners living in multi-unit houses are having difficulties--with house prices inflated way beyond their rent values, you can't make that scheme work.
Posted by:
Moopheus |
November 07, 2008 at 02:35 PM
From each according to his ability, too each according to his needs. What could go wrong?
Posted by:
jon |
November 08, 2008 at 01:16 PM
In my opinion, market conditions are such that many Type 2 homeowners will default unless all negative equity homeowners have their mortgages written down.
The reason is that in many neighborhoods in bubble markets, prices have already declined by 40 to 50% or even more, and prices are still declining.
Take two neighbors, who both paid $500,000 for their homes in 2005. Their homes are now worth $325,000.
Borrower #1 obtained a 100% loan, and still owes $500,000. They may have even done a cash out refi in 2006 or 2007, and now owe $600,000. They have a negative net worth, and they will almost certainly default on their loan unless a huge loan modifation is done.
Borrower #2 obtained a loan for $400,000, and the $100,000 equity they once had in their property is long gone. They are now underwater by $75,000. If they see borrower #1's loan written down to under $300,000, how fair would that be? Borrower #1 would now have some equity in their property, and Borrower #2 is underwater by $75,000+, even though they were the one who put money down on their purchase. If I was borrower #2, I may stop paying on my mortgage, and take the hit to my credit, and walk away.
Posted by:
Woody |
November 09, 2008 at 10:28 AM
There is a spectrum of options available. At one end, letting them go into foreclosure, at the other principal reduction to market prices or what 'owners' can afford. Negative amortization loans can stall for time but with ownership commonly limited to seven years, likely mean an eventual short sale. As a negative, it defers the lender from recognizing their loss. Lower interest rates also stall for time but lower the likelihood of a short sale. Neither are very beneficial to the borrower which is why they may fail to induce the desired behavior, but buying time is good for the lender. Principal reduction is, but it may be too much of one since they escape any repercussions.
Posted by:
Lord |
November 10, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Unfortunately, in the Western states (and Florida) as well as elsewhere, there is the problem of the debtor/investor who claims multiple properties as a principal residence (like my sister-in-law, a nurse who just "returned" a pack of single family residences up and down the central valley of California).
This is a far greater problem than a rational thinker would imagine possible (many of her co-workers are in, or now out of, the same sinking boat). All of them would just love to take multiple fradulent bites out of your apple, and return themselves to the imagined path to a real estate empire, off of which they all feel they have been unjustly ejected.
Posted by:
esb |
November 12, 2008 at 09:40 PM
There is a definite underlying issue with these foreclosures and that is proof of ownership of the mortgage notes.
In light if the recent "Robo Signer" scandal it is clear that most of these mortgage lenders lack the authority to foreclose.
Posted by:
Kyle Ransom |
June 16, 2011 at 07:27 AM
There are many ways on how to avoid receiving the foreclosure letters. Some are just too lazy to defend themselves and just let things to happen.
Posted by:
Tammy Haney |
November 23, 2012 at 01:54 AM
Those who are current on mortgage payments, but still squeezed, may be tempted to let two or three payments slide, so they can negotiate money-saving terms on their own mortgages. The backlash to the 700 B bailout package was not only because of the bailout of wall street but also the bailout of the reckless homeowners and their relentless spending.
Posted by:
Diana Mercer |
January 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

So, how do the OER and house rental prices line up?