February 24, 2009
Foreclosure mitigation: What we think we know
One of the most important challenges facing policymakers today is reducing the rate of mortgage foreclosures. It is a goal many think is at the heart of a sustained recovery in the U.S. economy. But as past attempts to reduce financial stress on homeowners have shown, the task is not easy. One of the complicating factors in formulating successful foreclosure mitigation policy is getting at the heart of the relationship between negative equity (the situation where the remaining mortgage balance is greater than the value of the house) and actual foreclosure.
Economic theory poses one categorical prediction about this relationship, which is that negative equity is a necessary condition for default. In other words, if a borrower is not in a position of negative equity, then he or she should never default. This conclusion follows simply from the fact that positive equity implies a borrower can sell the house, pay off the mortgage, and keep the difference—a better outcome under any circumstance compared with stopping payment on the mortgage and leaving the home.
What economic theory does not say is that if a borrower has negative equity, he or she should always default. The reason for this is that the owner could always default in the future, and thus there is value in waiting to see if house prices recover. Now, this value to waiting differs across borrowers and is sensitive to both the depth of negative equity and a borrower's financial situation. Why does a borrower's financial health matter? Well, the cost of waiting includes the monthly mortgage payment the borrower must continue to make. Borrowers who have plenty of wealth and a steady stream of income will be more willing to continue making payments than borrowers who are in financial distress, perhaps related to an unemployment spell or some other adverse financial shock.
So why does all of this matter in terms of thinking about a successful foreclosure mitigation program? Well, the appropriate policy prescription depends on the particular reason a borrower is currently considering default. I think it is useful to break things down in terms of three (not necessarily mutually exclusive) groups of mortgage borrowers:
- those in unaffordable mortgages from the very beginning, who were implicitly relying on increasing house prices to refinance or sell for a profit;
- those who have been hit by an adverse, but temporary, income/financial shock; and
- those who purchased the house for strictly investment purposes and now see little or no hope of making a profit.
Borrowers may find themselves with unaffordable mortgages for many reasons. One might be an unscrupulous mortgage broker, who steered the borrower into an unaffordable subprime loan in order to generate high origination fees. Another, related situation would be an unaffordable interest rate reset on a subprime adjustable-rate mortgage. Finally, some mortgages may be permanently unaffordable because a buyer misrepresented income or assets during the origination process, a situation made easier by the growth of low documentation mortgages.
A large part of the administration's new housing plan—summarized succinctly by the New York Times, with lots of commentary (negative and positive) rounded up at Economist's View—is reasonably interpreted as being directed squarely at borrowers in the unaffordable-mortgage group. If policy is to be aimed at helping this group, the prescription is to offer the borrower a permanent reduction in monthly payments, whether it comes from lowering the interest rate, lengthening the maturity, and/or reducing the outstanding principal balance on the loan. The measuring stick often used in such plans is the debt-to-income ratio (DTI), which is the borrower's monthly mortgage and/or total required debt payments relative to his or her gross monthly income. While the administration's plan would succeed in lowering DTIs, the policy is temporary in nature (five years), and it is unclear what would happen to these borrowers after the plan runs its course—especially if negative equity is still an issue.
Many borrowers might have been able to afford their mortgages while employed but can no longer do so after they have lost their jobs. When housing prices are rising and homeowners enjoy positive equity, then distressed borrowers are able to sell their homes to pay off their mortgages. Alternatively, such borrowers can undertake cash-out refinances to gain some much-needed liquidity. Note that problems can occur for people in this situation even when positive future equity is a realistic hope. If the borrower is unemployed and liquidity constrained, the cost of waiting to default is very high and potential future price gains are of little value. Default in this case is much more likely, even though future prospects might be reasonably good. In this case, foreclosure-prevention policy could simply be used to eliminate the financial friction. In this case a lender would offer "forbearance," in which the borrower pays significantly lower payments for some period, with the arrears made up (with interest) later on. In this light, it is notable that the administration's key payment reduction plan has a five-year window.
However, one important concern regarding the plan is that servicers/investors don't have enough incentives to substantially decrease current DTI ratios. For example, if a household has a DTI of 60 or 70 because of a job loss, the servicer is responsible for modifying the loan to get DTI down to 38 and then still has to kick in a 50 percent match to further reduce it to 31. The costs borne by the servicer/investor are much larger than those borne by the government, which may not be such a bad thing in principal but in practice may result in low participation rates.
Note also that while permanent relief is the prescribed course for borrowers in the unaffordable-mortgage group, temporary relief is indicated for those in the temporary economic distress group. This highlights the difficulties in constructing policies when the underlying sources of stress differ by individual. The existence of a class of borrowers that purchased and financed residential real estate primarily for investment purposes further complicates matters. People in this group are in much different circumstances than those in the other groups and will default much more ruthlessly. A so-called "ruthless defaulter" has given up hope of positive future equity and hence there are no potential price gains to value. Under the theory of ruthless default, one effective policy intervention is to lower the outstanding balance of the mortgage so that positive equity—or even the hope of positive equity in the near future—is restored. Alternatively, the lender could forestall default at least temporarily by cutting the monthly payment below the cost of renting an otherwise observable house.
Aimed as it is at owner-occupied housing, the administration's plan does not offer direct assistance to those in the investment class. That may not be too surprising, as it is hard to generate much political sympathy for a group carrying a label like "ruthless defaulter." In addition, the perverse incentives of government assistance that usually go by the name of moral hazard are arguably more severe for individuals who purchase properties for investment purposes. However, abandoned properties do add to the stock of unsold homes, independent of who owned them or why they owned them. This does not necessarily argue for policy relief for investment buyers, but it is potential issue that bears watching.
Finally, there may be commentators with the view that loan modifications are a failing proposition as a few studies have shown extremely high default rates on modifications performed in early 2008 (for example, see OCC and OTS Mortgage Metrics Report, Third Quarter 2008). But, according to the table below (based on my calculations), the problem seems to be that the wrong type of modification was being performed. Approximately two-thirds of the modifications performed by servicers in the first two quarters of 2008 had the effect of increasing the principal balance of the mortgage and, as a result, also increased the borrower's monthly mortgage payment. In light of the above discussion, we should not be surprised by high re-default rates on these loans. On the other hand, there is reason to believe that successful implementation of payment reduction programs may indeed help to stem the pace of foreclosures.
| # Loans Modified |
Interest Rate Reductions |
Principal Balance Reductions |
Principal Balance Increases |
Term Extensions |
|||||
| # | % total |
# | % total |
# | % total |
# | % total |
||
| Q107 | 13,900 | 200 | 1.25 | 600 | 3.75 | 13,100 | 81.88 | 2,100 | 13.13 |
| Q207 | 21,600 | 700 | 3.00 | 200 | 0.86 | 20,700 | 88.84 | 1,700 | 7.30 |
| Q307 | 24,600 | 700 | 2.55 | 300 | 1.09 | 23,600 | 86.13 | 2,800 | 10.22 |
| Q407 | 32,300 | 3,600 | 9.65 | 1,000 | 2.68 | 28,000 | 75.07 | 4,700 | 12.60 |
| Q108 | 33,000 | 7,100 | 18.11 | 400 | 1.02 | 25,500 | 65.05 | 6,200 | 15.82 |
| Q208 | 41,200 | 10,600 | 22.36 | 900 | 1.90 | 30,100 | 63.50 | 5,800 | 12.24 |
| Q308 | 52,600 | 17,300 | 28.22 | 200 | 0.33 | 36,000 | 58.73 | 7,800 | 12.72 |
By Kristopher Gerardi, research economist and assistant policy adviser at the Atlanta Fed
February 24, 2009 in Fiscal Policy, Housing | Permalink
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Posted by:
Moopheus |
February 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Could you please clarify why some loan modifications have resulted in increases in total principal balances and in monthly principal repayments? I suppose that an increase in the former could be OK if it were accompanied by a decrease in the latter (i.e., if cash flow was the dominant issue) and that an increase in the latter could be OK if it were accompanied by an decrease in the former (i.e., if negative equity was the dominant issue), but why on earth would a loan modification be expected to work if both the total principal balance and the monthly repayments increased? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Posted by:
Rich F |
February 24, 2009 at 01:20 PM
No, I answer my own question: the reason servicers and investors will resist participation in a deal in which they have to take a loss on the loan mod is they want to pressure the government to give them a better deal, and protect them against any loss. It would be a bad and stupid move for the government to give in to them, but the Fed and the Treasury seem to have a hard time saying no to Wall Street.
Posted by:
Moopheus |
February 24, 2009 at 01:46 PM
Your entire premise is based on treating a symptom (foreclosures), rather than the cause (house prices). By any historical metric, house prices are too high (rent-price ratios, income-house price ratios, Case-Shiller, OFHEO, etc.). When house prices drop to prices that are affordable and cost competitive with other forms of shelter, a bottom will naturally form. Government intervention is not the right solution for this problem.
Posted by:
uber_snotling |
February 24, 2009 at 04:35 PM
I have been waiting for the housing to becom affordable to me in my area, and have been renting since 2002. I have an above average income. Why should I pay for those who live in a big house that they cannot afford for while I'm still renting?
The key problem is the housing is still too expensive. The natural market force is driving down the price. Why does the government wants to keep it expensive? Why does the idiotic government want to waste tax money paid by those who are renting, in order to keep the housing expensive to these renters?
Posted by:
alex |
February 24, 2009 at 05:20 PM
Hi Rich,
The reason why some payments go up on a loan mod is because the homeowner may have had a Pay Option ARM and was accruing negative equity.
When the payment is modified to a fixed rate loan, even if the rate is lower, the loan is now fully amortized.
I'm assuming that these homeowners actually READ their loan mod documents this time around but perhaps that's a false assumption.
If they couldn't afford the modified payment but signed anyways, this was just a step to buy the homeowner more time to possibly sell or to save up money before ruthlessly defaulting later.
Posted by:
Jillayne Schlicke |
February 24, 2009 at 05:34 PM
"Could you please clarify why some loan modifications have resulted in increases in total principal balances and in monthly principal repayments?"
What happens in a lot of cases is not a real loan mod, but a repayment plan, where past due amounts are added to the principal, and the payments are readjusted (upward) to reflect the new balance. And you're right--it's not a great deal for the borrower, which is why these "mods" have a high rate of failure. The borrower stands a better chance if the amount of actual debt is reduced, but then the lender has to be willing to write off the difference.
Posted by:
Moopheus |
February 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
"One of the most important challenges facing policymakers today is reducing the rate of mortgage foreclosures."
Dave, please can you explain WHY? If home ownership is at 'unsustainable levels', if debt/income ratios are 'too high', then why should policymakers prevent an adjustment? This is not intended to be partisan/political, I'm genuinely interested in the rationale behind your opening sentence. Thanks, MW.
Posted by:
MW |
February 26, 2009 at 08:51 AM
Is there a way out of this mess. Let the finger pointing begin. All the Rep. are say :look at the Dems. they are screwing up!" But 8 years of asleep at the wheel can not be fixed overnight.
Posted by:
Orlando |
February 28, 2009 at 04:44 PM
I second Moopheus...
I also want to know why is it good to keep house prices artificially high?
Also, if we were to help underwater homeowners (for the sake of saving the economy) this thing has to be done such that irresponsible homeowners profit at the expense of taxpayers. They need to give-up something in return. For instance, some "option value", such that if their house appreciate, they have to repay the government.
Posted by:
FC |
March 02, 2009 at 08:16 PM
I think that the idea is that foreclosures represent a sort of collective action problem: Individual banks would like to foreclose and resell, but if everyone's doing it, prices are driven lower, more mortgages go underwater, and the cycle repeats. In today's market foreclosed homes often sit unoccupied, steadily losing value.
So by keeping people in their homes, even with modified loans, the banking system overall is better off. The goal is to stem the panic and reduce write-downs on toxic mortgage assets.
I've been wondering what would happen if, rather than setting up all of these hoops for homeowners and banks, the government simply imposed a temporary, $10,000 per foreclosure on banks per foreclosure? This would cost taxpayers nothing and would provide an incentive for banks to modify their own loans.
Posted by:
Tom |
March 02, 2009 at 08:36 PM
I understand the logic of the $10,000 (or whatever amount) per foreclosure. This is a good idea. The only problem I see is that banks would factor in this expense in future morgages.
Anyway, and I know I am being repetitive, I do believe that current homeowners need to pay back any help received. Besides an "option" triggered by appreciation, another idea is to void the tax exemption on capital gains when selling the house for all homeowners who get relief from the government.
Posted by:
FC |
March 03, 2009 at 01:42 PM
We can't artificially manipulate prices. We need the market to correct naturally.
Posted by:
Brian Dickerson |
May 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I like your break out of the 3 different homeowner categories. We tend too often to lump all homeowners in need of loan modification into the same category. But sadly, I believe from all the horror stories I constantly hear form distressed home owners or former owners through my mortgage business that many, many lenders are much more proned to go the foreclosure route than to do what I believe is the right thing for both the home owner and the bank's bottom line.
Posted by:
Ron Stone |
August 07, 2009 at 12:20 PM
November 06, 2008
Underwater homeowners and foreclosure
One of the important policy questions that has developed from the recent turmoil in financial markets is, What steps should be taken to try and mitigate the rising tide of foreclosures? Many have identified “negative equity” as one of the primary culprits for the huge increase in foreclosures. Negative equity refers to the situation in which a homeowner would not be able to fully repay his mortgage from the proceeds of a sale. Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com, emphasizes the current role of negative equity in the housing crisis in a recent article.
There have been various policies put forth to try to address the negative equity issue. Perhaps the most popular is a widespread loan modification plan, in which lenders/servicers agree to write down or forgive a portion of the principal mortgage balance. A variation of this idea was included in the American Housing Rescue and Foreclosure Prevention Act of 2008. The specific plan was labeled a “rescue refinancing” package. This package consisted of a voluntary program in which a lender who agreed to write down the mortgage of a delinquent borrower to 85 percent of the current market value of the home could obtain a federal guarantee (through the FHA). The idea is basically that curing the problem of negative equity can solve the foreclosure problem.
It turns out that my colleague, Kris Gerardi, who recently joined the Atlanta Fed by way of the Boston Fed and Boston University, has conducted some research on this topic, which was discussed in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal.
“Christopher L. Foote, Kristopher Gerardi and Paul S. Willen of the Boston Federal Reserve Bank studied more than 100,000 homeowners who were underwater in Massachusetts in 1991 and found that just 6.4% of them lost their homes to foreclosure over the next three years, according to a paper published in the September issue of the Journal of Urban Economics (For non-subscribers, a version of the paper can be found on the Boston Fed’s working paper series). The vast majority of homeowners simply continued paying as usual because they focused on the affordability of their payments, not on what they owed, and they believed home values would eventually recover.”
“The economists found that homeowners typically lost their homes only after at least two things happened: Their home values dropped and they either couldn't afford the payments or they stopped making payments after losing hope that prices would eventually recover.”
In a follow-up article presented last week at a conference on “The Mortgage Meltdown, the Economy and Public Policy” at the University of California, Berkeley, Gerardi and Willen consider the principal write-down policy discussed above:
“Many commentators have recently argued that lenders should eliminate negative equity for borrowers in such a position by writing down a portion of the principal balance on their respective loans. The argument runs that such a plan benefits the lender as well because the new principal balance exceeds the yield from foreclosure once one takes into account the costs of foreclosure. Many commentators have argued that this solution is so obvious that one wonders why lenders do not implement it on a large scale.”
What are the potential pitfalls?
“Think of two mistakes a lender could make. One mistake is to not offer assistance to a borrower in distress. The lender loses here if the increased probability of foreclosure, and high costs incurred by foreclosure, make inaction more costly than assistance. We call this scenario “Type I Error.” But, there is another mistake, often overlooked, which is to assist a borrower who does not need the help. The lender loses here because it receives less in repayment from a borrower who would have paid off the mortgage in full. We refer to this case as ‘Type II Error.’”
That Type II error is, according to the authors, a nontrivial problem. Using their empirical results as a basis, they conduct the following thought experiment:
“Our policy experiment here is to lower the principal so that the borrower moves from 20 percent negative equity to 10 percent positive equity. Types I and II error and net gains are measured as a percentage of the original loan balance.”
The results, as the authors say, “illustrate both the limits and the opportunities for principal reduction”:
“For most groups, Type II error is large relative to Type I error. The reason is straightforward: most borrowers will repay their loan, even if they are in negative equity positions. For the subprime single-family borrower, a 33 percent foreclosure rate implies a 67 percent repayment rate.”
There may be resolutions to this problem, but they wouldn’t be easy:
“One potential criticism of the above argument is that one could minimize Type II error by requiring proof that a borrower is likely to default. However, as a practical matter, this would be extremely difficult to enforce. Tax documents and even credit reports in many cases would not suffice, as many borrowers in need of assistance are likely suffering from very recent adverse events. Instead, policymakers would need to obtain and verify current information on income, wealth, employment status, and perhaps even more personal events, such as marital status. This would be extremely costly. Furthermore, [our results] suggest that even if qualification requirements reduced Type II error by half … [the only group for which] principal reduction makes economic sense is the multi-family, subprime borrower.”
Basically Gerardi and Willen are arguing that the key to a successful principal write-down policy would be to target the borrowers who are at the most risk of defaulting (in the absence of any assistance). For these borrowers, Type I error is high, while Type II error is very low. Their example is an owner of a multifamily property who financed the purchase with a subprime mortgage. In the Northeast, 2-4 family units are very common, where there's one owner who usually (but not always) lives in one unit and then rents out the other units. Since many of these owners relied on rental income to stay current on the mortgage, they were very susceptible to foreclosure. Further, there is an obvious externality to foreclosure on these properties, as the tenants (who have nothing to do with the delinquent mortgage) are also affected by foreclosure.
This discussion, however, is not to say that efforts to help households facing foreclosure are not effective. In fact, many organizations, from nonprofits to the U.S. government, are working to assist borrowers who face foreclosure.
Tricky business, this.
By David Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
November 6, 2008 in Housing | Permalink
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The Federal mortgage plan and bailout would reward the reckless and punish the prudent.
Consider the lesson it imparts to promote bailouts to the reckless. City by city, neighborhood by neighborhood, people who live beneath their means and manage money carefully will see more careless neighbors supported by federal decree. And what about the 30 percent of this nation who were smart enough to rent? Or how about the large percentage of us who have been giving warnings out to these same people the government now wants to redistribute my taxes to so they can stay in a house twice the size the home I live in. Those who are current on mortgage payments, but still squeezed, may be tempted to let two or three payments slide, so they can negotiate money-saving terms on their own mortgages. The backlash to the 700 B bailout package was not only because of the bailout of wall street but also the bailout of the reckless homeowners and their relentless ATM/HELOC spending. As it is now these people can live in their home for over a year rent free while they find a home they should have been living in from the start.
We are becoming a nation of people who feel it is not only okay but justified to cheat, lie, and swindle each other and the rest of the population. Personal responsibility is discouraged by the government and the mainstream media. White collar crimes are rarely prosecuted because FBI is so stretched. Our nation is eating ourselves from within just to keep a facade of prosperity. Hope is being replaced by anger and desperation. Welcome to the new dawn.
Posted by:
ss |
November 07, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Indeed, almost no one seems to be addressing how the problem of widespread fraud has affected the foreclosure rate. Also, the fact that many foreclosures are likely not owner occupied--they're second homes and investment properties. Although it's not surprising to me if homeowners living in multi-unit houses are having difficulties--with house prices inflated way beyond their rent values, you can't make that scheme work.
Posted by:
Moopheus |
November 07, 2008 at 02:35 PM
From each according to his ability, too each according to his needs. What could go wrong?
Posted by:
jon |
November 08, 2008 at 01:16 PM
In my opinion, market conditions are such that many Type 2 homeowners will default unless all negative equity homeowners have their mortgages written down.
The reason is that in many neighborhoods in bubble markets, prices have already declined by 40 to 50% or even more, and prices are still declining.
Take two neighbors, who both paid $500,000 for their homes in 2005. Their homes are now worth $325,000.
Borrower #1 obtained a 100% loan, and still owes $500,000. They may have even done a cash out refi in 2006 or 2007, and now owe $600,000. They have a negative net worth, and they will almost certainly default on their loan unless a huge loan modifation is done.
Borrower #2 obtained a loan for $400,000, and the $100,000 equity they once had in their property is long gone. They are now underwater by $75,000. If they see borrower #1's loan written down to under $300,000, how fair would that be? Borrower #1 would now have some equity in their property, and Borrower #2 is underwater by $75,000+, even though they were the one who put money down on their purchase. If I was borrower #2, I may stop paying on my mortgage, and take the hit to my credit, and walk away.
Posted by:
Woody |
November 09, 2008 at 10:28 AM
There is a spectrum of options available. At one end, letting them go into foreclosure, at the other principal reduction to market prices or what 'owners' can afford. Negative amortization loans can stall for time but with ownership commonly limited to seven years, likely mean an eventual short sale. As a negative, it defers the lender from recognizing their loss. Lower interest rates also stall for time but lower the likelihood of a short sale. Neither are very beneficial to the borrower which is why they may fail to induce the desired behavior, but buying time is good for the lender. Principal reduction is, but it may be too much of one since they escape any repercussions.
Posted by:
Lord |
November 10, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Unfortunately, in the Western states (and Florida) as well as elsewhere, there is the problem of the debtor/investor who claims multiple properties as a principal residence (like my sister-in-law, a nurse who just "returned" a pack of single family residences up and down the central valley of California).
This is a far greater problem than a rational thinker would imagine possible (many of her co-workers are in, or now out of, the same sinking boat). All of them would just love to take multiple fradulent bites out of your apple, and return themselves to the imagined path to a real estate empire, off of which they all feel they have been unjustly ejected.
Posted by:
esb |
November 12, 2008 at 09:40 PM
October 24, 2008
A home price index gets a new name (but it’s telling the same story)
Yesterday we got a peek at the latest home price data provided by the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA). Never heard of it before? It’s the new agency that took conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the nation’s giant housing GSEs (government-sponsored enterprises). FHFA has also absorbed the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, or OFHEO. So the popular OFHEO home price index is now the FHFA home price index. (Let me weigh in here—I like the sound of OFHEO better.)
The FHFA price index posted another sizeable decline in August (0.6 percent) and is down 6.5 percent from its peak in April 2007. Here’s what the home price index has done since 1991.
The national data mask some wide variations by region. While every part of the country has felt the decline in housing markets, the Pacific region has seen the largest price declines (off 21.5 percent since peaking in March 2007) and the East South Central (which includes Texas) has experienced the least slowing (off 1.7 percent since peaking in June of 2007). The South Atlantic Region, which includes much of the Atlanta Fed’s Sixth Federal Reserve District, has also been hit with an above national average decline as home prices are off about 7 percent since their peak in May 2007.
I suppose these regional variations aren’t too surprising. Stories of overbuilding and price speculation were most pronounced in areas such as California, Nevada, and Florida. These areas also rate tops among foreclosure rates according to data just released by RealtyTrac. Without getting into the thorny (albeit important) issue about what, exactly, constitutes a bubble, the “what goes up must come down” explanation may be a little overly simplistic.
Here’s a perspective published in the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland’s Commentary series a little more than a year ago. Davis, Ortalo-Magne, and Rupert say that home values, and especially relative home values, are really driven by fluctuations in the value of land. They argued that if you relax credit constraints, you unleash demand for housing, which because land is in fixed supply will produce a jump in home prices. And the subsequent declines we’ve seen to date? Well, constrain the credit, and the process works in reverse. The Davis et al. story works especially well if you think the housing boom and subsequent bust originated in the subprime market. Since these are exactly the homebuyers who were most credit constrained, the increased availability of credit significantly expanded the pool of potential home buyers.
Atlanta’s recent housing experience may be a good example of the relationship between land, demand, and home prices. As my boss, Atlanta Fed President and CEO Dennis Lockhart, noted in a speech earlier this week, Atlanta had a large expansion of new home building in the first half of this decade. The expansion in home building wasn’t impeded by natural barriers, like mountains and coastline. Atlanta has an abundance of low-cost land available for residential development, and in 2005 Atlanta’s single-family new home market was the strongest in the nation with 61,000 single-family housing permits. However, Atlanta did not experience the extreme home price appreciation seen in some areas, and Atlanta’s home price decline, while unpleasant, is much less than areas like Florida and the West Coast.
By Mike Bryan, vice president and economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
October 24, 2008 in Data Releases, Housing | Permalink
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September 25, 2008
Wall Street worries, Main Street woes
A fair amount of the discussion around what now seems to be an imminent rescue plan to settle unsettled financial markets has been focused on a debate as to whether Main Street should pay or Wall Street should pay for the plan. Pimco’s William Gross, however, is suggesting it is a false choice:
“If this were a textbook recession, policy prescriptions would recommend two aspirin and bed rest—a healthy dose of interest rate cuts and a fiscal package that mildly expanded the deficit.… But recent events have made it apparent that this downturn differs from recessions past.…
“And so, instead of mild medication and rest, it became apparent that quadruple bypass surgery is necessary. The extreme measures are extended government guarantees and the formation of an RTC-like holding company housed within the Treasury. Critics call this a bailout of Wall Street; in fact, it is anything but. I estimate the average price of distressed mortgages that pass from ‘troubled financial institutions’ to the Treasury at auction will be 65 cents on the dollar, representing a loss of one-third of the original purchase price to the seller, and a prospective yield of 10 to 15 percent to the Treasury.…
“The Treasury proposal will not be a bailout of Wall Street but a rescue of Main Street, as lending capacity and confidence is restored to our banks and the delicate balance between production and finance is given a chance to work its magic.”
That assessment—that the goal is to get market-mechanisms working again—was expressed by Chairman Bernanke in his Tuesday testimony before the Senate Banking Committee:
“If you have an appropriate auction mechanism, together with other types of inputs, with flexibility to address different assets in different ways, I think what you will do is you will restart this market. And then you'll get a sense of what the more fundamental value is.”
It may be a good point to note that there is no guarantee that the magic worked by markets will be quick. Yesterday’s report on existing house sales and today’s news on new home sales—covered by the go-to guy Calculated Risk here and here—clearly indicate that the fundamental Main Street adjustments are not yet complete.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to make the case that the trip to stabilization of house prices will be a short one. Simple economics predicts this relationship: movements in house prices are the result, mainly, of movements in land prices (as shown in a good piece of analysis by Morris Davis and Jonathan Heathcote, respectively, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the Federal Reserve Board of Governors). The supply of land is fairly inelastic and as a result, changes in house prices should be determined primarily from demand factors. According to Gregory Mankiw and David Weil, this demand is related to the number of prime-aged, child-bearing households.
As the following chart illustrates, house-price growth (measured by the year-over-year growth rate of nominal house prices constructed by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, or OFHEO) and the growth rate of the civilian labor force (CLF)—a reasonable proxy for prime-aged, child-bearing households—were tightly linked for more than two decades.
That pattern broke down around the time of the 2001 recession. This deviation from presumed fundamentals is well known, and we can use the underlying economic theory to get a rough benchmark for how far from complete the adjustment process may be. Consider a hypothetical path for house prices such that the ratio of the growth rate of the OFHEO index to the growth rate of the civilian labor force is maintained at its pre-2001 historical value. That exercise suggests house-price appreciation of 3.3 percent, represented by the green dashed line in this chart:
An estimate of the “overvaluation” of housing is given roughly by the area below the red line (the actual growth in house prices) and above the hypothetical dashed line. With this alternative growth rate series, the OFHEO index would have been at a level of 301 in the second quarter of 2008, instead of the realized value of 381. If the ratio for the post-2000 period is to return to its historical value, house prices would drop 21 percent from second-quarter 2008 levels.
These numbers are, of course, just ballpark calculations. The future need not look exactly like the past, and even if it does there is no way to predict how close we have to get before economic conditions normalize. But to the extent that the past is in fact a reasonable guide, this simple exercise may provide a sense of how much work remains to be done.
By Pedro Silos, research economist and assistant policy adviser, and David Altig, research director, of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.
September 25, 2008 in Housing | Permalink
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Pimco is looking forward to managing the billions of dollars of assets.
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Trade Meme |
September 26, 2008 at 06:05 AM
Bill Gross will be a direct and major beneficiary of the bailout. PIMCO has billions of dollars of bank debt in its funds. If and when the bailout occurs the value of that debt will soar. Anything he says on the subject of the bailout is tainted by his financial interest, and should be viewed with extreme scepticism.
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dlr |
September 27, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Trade Meme, I agree that Bill Gross is an extremely unreliable prognosticator here. Not only is he deeply compromised by his own interests, he also has a mixed record as a long-term prognosticator. He has done a good job of predicting the government's near-term actions (probably through tip-offs from his corrupt insider buddies), but his returns would be quite a bit higher if he had anticipated the current magnitude of the real estate and credit crises. He CANNOT be sure that the government will make money on these securities.
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Disgusted |
September 29, 2008 at 12:39 AM
July 26, 2007
It Never Was Just Subprime
So now the dissecting of today's market jitters begins, and there is no shortage of diagnoses. Today's data releases -- described here, here, and here, for example -- were certainly not great, but the most popular explanation seems to be that market players have developed a newly found sense that the world is a risky place. Barry Ritholtz sums it up nicely:
The Dow is off 395 points as I type this. There will be some short covering shortly, and a rally attempt. But what I want to address is the change that has taken place:
What has changed? What is different today than yesterday? Are the prospects of the economy and/or corporate profits so different today than they were merely a week ago?
What has changed is Credit: Risk appetite for anything less than AAA -- and that includes the ABX stretched definition of AAA (see WTF is going on in the ABX Markets?) -- has waned considerably.
The tinder, if not the spark, for the flare-up of credit concerns was this week's revelation from the mortgage lender Countrywide Financial that loan problems extend well beyond the subprime borrower. From the Wall Street Journal (page C1 of the July 25 print edition):
By laying the blame for its earnings shortfall on rising defaults of prime home-equity loans -- many taken out by people who were straining to afford a house and didn't fully document their income -- Countrywide undermined the popular notion that only subprime borrowers are falling behind. And that could have a broad, negative impact on lenders' stocks.
And from from Joanna Ossinger's column at the WSJ Online:
Credit-market woes are partially rooted in the subprime-mortgage sector, which has been a source of market angst for months. But recently the problems have become more acute, as hedge funds invested in mortgage-backed securities have struggled and as default rates have risen, even among prime borrowers. Banks have been hurt by having to take loans onto their balance sheets instead of passing them on to outside investors. And major private-equity acquisitions have struggled to find financing, possibly removing one long-standing support for the market.
It "all goes back to weakness in the mortgages," said Larry Peruzzi, equity trader at Boston Company Asset Management.
But a closer look at the Countrywide development is instructive, as it reveals that the source of the problem is, not surprisingly, non-conventional types of loans. Again from the WSJ article:
Many of the home-equity loans that are going bad are "piggyback" loans to borrowers who took out a second mortgage because they couldn't afford a large down payment and didn't want to pay for mortgage insurance.
Now, with home prices falling in many areas, some borrowers owe more than their houses are worth. That is forcing Countrywide and others to increase provisions against losses.
Another concern is the $27.78 billion of pay option adjustable-rate mortgages held on the books of Countrywide's banking arm. These loans allow borrowers to pay no principal or less than full interest each month. If they choose that option, their loan balance grows. Payments are now overdue on 5.7% of these loans held by Countrywide, up from 1.6% a year earlier.
But here's the thing -- we surely have known for a while now that the building stress in mortgage markets is not a prime vs. subprime thing, but conventional-loan vs. non-conventional loan thing:
What seems like fresher news to me is the growing skittishness in credit markets that are not so clearly associated with the housing sector. From the Financial Times:
Stock prices plunged on Thursday amid a flight from risky credits and fears about banks’ growing exposure to leveraged buy-out debts...
Investment bank stocks led the market lower on worries that they will have to use their balance sheets to fund private equity deals. The S&P investment bank index was down 5.3 per cent.
Concerns about the possibility of a credit contraction were exacerbated this week when banks gave up attempts to sell to investors $20bn of debt for the leveraged buy-outs of Chrysler and Alliance Boots, the UK retailer.
A Financial Times analysis shows that in recent weeks, bank balance sheets have absorbed more than $40bn of high-yield debt for buy-out deals that was meant to be sold to investors.
So you have your pick -- weak economic news, a broadening of housing market woes, a fading corporate debt market. Or just choose all of the above and keep your fingers crossed that it's only a bad week and not a perfect storm.
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Perhaps a time for reflection:
The risk is that banks can't sell off the loans that they've made?
Gosh.. I remember way back ...when banks actually made loans on their own books..
Its as though people are wondering.. gee where will the banks get that money to make the loan if they don't sell it??
What was a newfangled "derivative" 5 years ago is no so integral to the banking system.. that we can't even remember what banks were supposed to do...
Posted by:
stan jonas |
July 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM
We operate SellHomeHouse.com, a home selling site and have seen a huge increase in the number of motivated sellers in the past few months. With how many homes are on the market right now so many are having a hard time selling their homes, and are going to great lengths to sell their homes. Hopefully the market will turn around next spring as predicted so sellers have an easier time in 2008!
Posted by:
TSmith |
July 27, 2007 at 11:41 AM
in the last few day's we're seeing motivated sellers of stock...
but why should anyone care whether they have an easier time of it in 2008...
Perhaps we should average down in Housing too?
Posted by:
phyron |
July 27, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Good start Mike on a great topic, but it's clear now it IS a perfect storm, one that started gathering force back in the 90s and whose force was not an accidental culmination of unforseen circumstances.
First, FED head A. Greenspan pushed Congress to DRAMATICALLY define down inflation. (Boskin Commission recommendations over those of K. Abraham, the head of the BLS.)
Then, Congress, again following the lead of AG, TOTALLY repealed Glass-Steagall WITHOUT calling for single-body regulatory control over the resulting financial (banking/Brokerage) sector.
Let's not forget the impact on soon to be retiring boomers of Congress' 1997 $500,000 homeowners tax exclusion.
The Bush Administration added gale-like strength to the growing storm with its "ownership society". (How many programs were instituted to advance home lending to those previously determined by free-market processes to be unqualified?)
Fannie & Freddie correctly assessed the opportunity and whirled it into a full-force tornado. (They buy almost 50% of residential mortgages. Had they simply decreed they wanted no part of the scam UNLESS a deep pockets guaranteed the no-doc, no down absurdly risky loans, the storm would've topped out as subtropical at best.)
The last and greatest culprit in creating the perfect storm was the FED. Forget any simplistic explanation that it kept "low interest rates for too long", that's sophomoric. The FED alone is responsible for this perfect storm as it lead the fight for conditions needed, resused to interced when it could have stopped it and along the way provided legitimacy for it with its rhetoric.
Let's review. The FED set the atmospheric conditions by defining down inflation close to a whopping 25% (4+% to 3+%). Dean Baker ably argued (1996?) it was unreasonable to not assume other effects. Then, without explanation, the FED stopped looking at M3 - the monetary measurement that most closely tracked prior readings of inflation growth. The FED never would've been able to justify the extended period it printed so much money had it not first changed the rules.
But, the FED did more. It narrowly (and incorrectly) interpreted its supervisoral role over the mortgage lending process to its direct role of overseeing its Banks' lending policies. Guess what? The percentage of non-bank originations (& non-traditional mortgage loans) skyrocketed!
A cynic might conlude it didn't hurt BB's chances to land his FED Chairmanship appointment when he announced in 2005 that housing prices were being "driven by fundamentals". It's informative that BB never mia culpa'd on the origins of the housing bubble, he just changed his line along the way. By the time he acknowledged the problem the storm was unavoidable. Even a casual observer would now conclude the FED's role in the oncoming catastrophy was causitive. Skeptics need only look at the FED's toothless nontraditional mortgage "guidelines" issued in the fall of 2006. Instead of stating clearly, STOP THIS NONSENSE - NOW, the FED signaled the r.e. industry time to start unwinding the scam. So, here we are a year later, facing the struggle no one wanted to face last year.
You betcha, it was a perfect storm. But, let's be clear about who the driving forces were.
Posted by:
bailey |
July 27, 2007 at 12:34 PM
We can all look back to see the structural imbalances in the financial systems, domestic and global, these are obvious. These imbalances have created vapors of weath across the globe that have presented themselves in many forms... Wealth effects from housing, corporate earnings, employment statistics, global trade, inflation assesment, consumer vitality, etc.etc, I could go on and on, have manifested themselves in the most excessive aquisiton binge in human history. It is imppossible to place the blame on anyone as this was a collective event that occured right in fron of our eyes. It was a human event in which everyone played a role. We are all driven by self interests and we closely watch our neighbors and judge them by standards not of our own making.
A new dawn is breaking on the horizon as I write this and it is clearing away the fog, the bars are closed, the vampires, rats and cockroaches are scurrying for cover. Many who had not been invited to previous parties and lack the experience, have over indulged in the exhilirating novelty of wealth and aquisition, a few more than others. It is still very early in the morning and some of us will sleep off our hangovers to face the recriminations later in the day. Some will want to keep the party going, but the novelty has turned mundane.
As the sun rises the vapors of illussion will melt into a reality of our own making. And just as we are seeing the housing bubble deflate in front of our own eyes, so too shall the consumer, equities, coporate earnings and employment, just to mention a few. These will canibalize each other. Where is the buyer of last resort....?
Econolicious
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ECONOMISTA NON GRATA |
July 29, 2007 at 11:23 AM
I think everyone here underestimates the power of the market. Bear Stearns had a couple of funds go bust, but the market somehow knew it was deeper than that.
What needs to happen is that all the information on how far the sub prime thing stretches needs to come out. Once the market has all the information, it can make a rational decision.
Tricky lawyers and CFO's are trying to contain the information, and parcel it out to see how much damage they can control.
I disagree with Bailey's analysis that it was all the feds fault in the late 90's. It is impossible to forecast ten years ahead of time.
Home ownership is a desirable standard for people. It gives them a stable foundation to direct their life. Banks made bad decisions on lending, and should pay the price for it.
Given all the shocks to the economy in the past 7 years, the FED has done a pretty good job. Let the capital markets work, and keep government regulation and bail outs out of the market. If some banks lose a bunch of money and go bust, it's a god thing. Part of being in a capitalistic society.
Posted by:
jeff |
July 29, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Most financial institutions have a notion of the overall level of risk they are willing to hold. They hold lots of assets of varying risks, and may hold various portfolios each of which has a different target level of risk, but in the end, banks cannot accept a run-up in risk in a major asset class without adjusting. When CDOs and the like began to crumble, the implication that overall risk held by financial institutions was up, and had to be brought down. Shedding assets that had become high-profile as "the problem" was unlikely to do the whole job, so other risky assets had to be disposed of, too.
Back in late 1990s, we say contagion go from mis-matches in currencies (borrow dollars, earn baht) to portfolio problems - dump emerging market assets. Portfolios that held no Thai assets still got whacked.
Contagion today starts from a different place, but the mechanism is the same. Whatever is in the portfolio that holds CDOs is likely to come under pressure, with the riskiest holdings going first - gotta fix the risk profile. Next is portfolios that didn't hold CDOs, but see their risk go up as leveraged loans begin to widen out.
Posted by:
kharris |
July 30, 2007 at 09:42 AM
I agree on most of what you had to say. If I may add that the new FHA bill passed by congress and signed by the president should help a lot of distressed homeowners
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Mortgage advice expert |
August 14, 2008 at 06:17 AM
July 03, 2007
The World According To Goldman Sachs (And Almost Everyone Else)
From my email, "A Tale of Two Tail Risks," from Goldman Sachs' Michael Vaknin:
- Sub-prime mortgage woes still hold centre-stage as housing fundamentals deteriorate further.
- A full-blown spillover from credit markets to other asset classes is unlikely as corporate sector and global macro fundamentals remain strong.
- Rather, credit market will feature less leverage, more convents, elevated volatility and gradual supply absorption.
- Upward risks to global inflation also remain high on the list of what investors worry about currently.
- On our baseline case, prudent monetary policy should limit a build-up of inflationary pressures.
Some details:
From a fundamental standpoint, there are two conflicting forces to consider. First, the ongoing deterioration in the residential housing market will continue to weigh on the mortgage market. Recent housing market data point to further inventory accumulation, while price indicators suggest the deceleration in house prices has gained more traction recently. The Case-Shiller 10- and 20-city composite indexes have declined sharply in April (7?% on annualized basis). The resulting decline in housing equity, along with the recent widening of mortgage rates and tightening of contractual mortgage conditions are all likely to keep credit investors on high alert.
On the bright side, corporate fundamentals remain fairly robust. Corporate default fundamentals are in good health, and from a macro perspective, corporate earnings are still supported by broadly favourable global demand conditions. While measures of industrial activity (including our Global Leading Indicator) have been somewhat softer than expected recently, from a level perspective the global manufacturing cycle remains comparatively strong, and a more broad-based weakness in the data is needed to shift this perception. Today's US ISM and the upcoming US payroll data are highly important in this respect.
That ISM report was, of course, a good one, although today's news on pending home sales failed to break the string of lousy housing data and factory orders for May were primarily lauded for being less bad than expected. But put it together and the consensus seems to be that it all adds up to the Goldman Sachs story. That's what came through in yesterday's round-up of forecasts from the Wall Street Journal, and the story that we're sticking to appeared again today in Bloomberg's coverage of the housing sales and orders reports:
Economists and the Federal Reserve predict growth will accelerate from its first quarter pace, the weakest since 2002, even as housing remains a burden. Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said last month there was no sign of "major spillovers'' from the housing slide. Industry reports for June show manufacturers are raising production as businesses spend on investment.
"The second half is coming together almost perfectly according to the Fed's plan,'' said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wachovia Corp. in Charlotte, North Carolina. "Housing is going to be a drag but if we get some strength in business spending then the economy will be able to handle it.''
Though some of the forecasters in that Wall Street Journal survey -- about 20 percent --- put inflationary risks at the top of their wish-not list, GS's Vaknin wants to ease their minds:
As global activity continues to grow at an above-trend rate and commodity prices remain elevated, a re-acceleration in consumer price inflation, particularly in the major markets, remains a clear risk to the outlook for financial asset returns. Consider that, on a year-on-year basis, headline inflation in advanced economies has accelerated from 1.7% in Q4:06 to around 2.0% currently, driven largely by higher food and energy prices. Such acceleration comes on the back of extended tightness in production capacity: According to the OECD, the output gap in this group of countries is about to move into a positive territory by year-end after hovering in negative levels since mid-2001.
Despite these seemingly worrying observations, we that think inflation, particularly in the G-7, should accelerate only moderately before stabilizing at benign levels early next year. Granted, elevated food and energy prices may keep headline inflation above core measures for a bit longer. But this should be seen in the context of two important developments: (1) US core inflation is on a genuine deceleration path, and (2) Monetary policy stance remains prudent in other major economies where upside inflation risks are clearly higher.
The "monetary policy stance" is key, and it probably explains why so many commentators are taking their predictions of a policy-rate cut off the table for the time being.
July 3, 2007 in Forecasts, Housing, Interest Rates | Permalink
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June 26, 2007
What's That Unpleasant Sound?
According to Lombard Street Research, it's a credit crunch. From the U.K. Telegraph (hat tip, Action Economics):
The United States faces a severe credit crunch as mounting losses on risky forms of debt catch up with the banks and force them to curb lending and call in existing loans, according to a report by Lombard Street Research.
The group said the fast-moving crisis at two Bear Stearns hedge funds had exposed the underlying rot in the US sub-prime mortgage market, and the vast nexus of collateralised debt obligations known as CDOs.
"Excess liquidity in the global system will be slashed," it said. "Banks' capital is about to be decimated, which will require calling in a swathe of loans. This is going to aggravate the US hard landing."...Lombard Street’s warning comes as fresh data from the US National Association of Realtors shows that the glut of unsold homes reached a record of 8.9 months supply in May. Sales of existing homes slid to an annual rate of 5.99m.
The median price fell for the 10th month in a row to $223,700, down almost 14pc from its peak in April 2006. This is the steepest drop since the 1930s.
The Mortgage Lender Implode-Meter that tracks the US housing markets claims that 86 major lenders have gone bankrupt or shut their doors since the crash began.
The latest are Aegis Lending, Oak Street Mortgage and The Mortgage Warehouse.
It is worth noting that those are specifically mortgage-lending corporations not commercial banks, so I am not clear on the basis of this claim:
Lombard Street said the Bear Stearns fiasco was the tip of the iceberg. The greatest risk lies in the “toxic tranches” of lower grade securities held by the banks.
Much-trumpeted claims that banks had shifted off the riskiest credit exposure on to the asset markets was “largely a fiction”, said [Charles Dumas, the group's global strategist].
In fact, the article contains more assertions than facts. But I think it is agreed that if there is going to be a really big spillover effect from ongoing housing woes, this is where we'll find it.
June 26, 2007 in Housing, Interest Rates, The "Landing" Strip | Permalink
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I'm highly skeptical of Lombard's position. Banks have used CDOs to lay off credit risk moreso than the other way around. And I don't see the link between poor performance on sub-prime MBS pools and bank loan pools.
I really think the CDO market will prevent a generalized credit crunch, rather than cause it. This is because the risk of poor performing loans is more spread out today than at any time in the past. If many banks/investors suffer small losses, the impact on liquidty system wide will be less than the classic case, where a few banks suffered large losses.
Posted by:
TDDG |
June 26, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Dave,
Mortgage-lending companies are dying off because they cannot sell the subprime loans they are originating. With the credit well drying up---and refis becoming a distant memory---, subprime mortgage defaults will inevitably increase, creating large losses for the owners of the lower tranches of MBS and CMOs (hedge funds and banks; what is the difference between a hedge fund and a bank's trading desk these days anyway?).
As losses mount, banks will become ever more cautious, starving even the more creditworthy borrowers (typical credit crunch story). Note that lending standards have recently been tightening even on the prime borrowers. In April Senior Loan Officer Survey, a net 15% of lenders said they have tightened their standards for prime borrower (48% for nontraditional, 56% for subprime borrowers). The tighter standards hurt not only the shaky borrowers but also those who cannot sell their homes due to a dearth of buyers.
We could easily see the problems spread from the toxic products to more traditional loans and higher quality MBS/CMO tranches. If that turns out to be the case, I'd say Lombard is underestimating the problem.
P.S.: Commercial bank/investment bank distinction is no longer all that relevant. Lombard is talking about banks in general, not commercial banks per se.
Posted by:
Oracle of Cleveland |
June 26, 2007 at 02:41 PM
The article makes it sound like this isn't just subprime: a credit crunch like that would mean it would be difficult for even high FICO borrowers to get a mortgage. If you think housing is in bad shape now, just imagine what that would (will?) be like.
Posted by:
TiP |
June 26, 2007 at 05:38 PM
I also doubt that banks are big holders of CDO equity tranches. On the other hand: Bloomberg reported this weekend that junk bond buyers are getting pickier about accepting new paper that is very highly levered and/or with weak covenants. And today (June 26) the WSJ discussed the possibility that leveraged loans might become harder to place in CLOs (collateralized loan oblidgations).
Put it all together and we are seeing indications that lenders' appetite for risky paper -- be it from private equity borrowers to finance LBOs (with the hope that the loans be placed in junk debt or CLOs) or from laxly underwritten mortgages (to be repackaged as CDOs) may be on the wane.
At the top of each economic cycle we learn that excess liquidity eventually dries up. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what is starting to occur.
Posted by:
JB |
June 26, 2007 at 11:04 PM
I see no basis for TDDG's assertion that, "If many banks/investors suffer small losses, the impact on liquidty [sic] system wide will be less than the classic case, where a few banks suffered large losses."
Even if the individual losses experienced by the "many investors" are small relative to those suffered by the "few banks" in the classic case, those losses will not necessarily be small from the viewpoint of those investors, and the degree to which those investors retreat from lending as a result of those losses may be much greater. After all, as they are not banks, they are not "to big to fail", and not supported by the FRB commitments to guaranteed banks profitability by reducing short-term rates below long rates whenever they need to repair their balance sheets.
The dispersal of risk is more likely to increase the impact on liquidity than to decrease it.
Posted by:
jm |
June 27, 2007 at 03:30 AM
When I said "large" I meant proportionally not absolutely.
Let's say that a large corporation has loans with only 2 banks. If that corporation fails, those two banks may be in trouble. A bank failure surely decreases system-wide liquidity.
Alternatively, let's say that the banks securitized that loan and is now owned in a CDO structure, which is held by dozens of hedge funds. The loss is absorbed by the CDO structure and spread around many investors. Something like that doesn't sour investor appetite for credit risk.
You also have to ask yourself, where is all the liquidity going to go? Drastic oversavings by non-US investors will be invested somehow.
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TDDG |
June 27, 2007 at 11:39 AM
I suspect that we are living in a rather different world of credit intermediation now than in the past. The focus on banks assumes that the risk of financial disintermediation depends on whether banks are will and able to continue lending, A lot larger share of credit flow now goes through non-bank institutions than in the past. If those institutions crack up, then disintermediation becomes a problem even with banks relatively unscathed. Having a sound banking sector means there would be a credit channel to fall back on, but the transition would be painful, if a transition is necessary.
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kharris |
June 27, 2007 at 12:01 PM
One answer, TDDG, is that some of this liquidity will disappear once hundreds of billions of instruments currently carried at face value of the books of many banks and funds are marked to their true values close to zero.
You had better believe that the margin calls on bear's hedge funds will not be the last. The major ratings agencies are finally being forced to revisit their pie-in-the-sky ratings on may such securities, as press reports this week made clear.
No collateral, no loan, goodbye liquidity.
Posted by:
Gary |
June 27, 2007 at 12:03 PM
That assumes that the problems in sub-prime MBS will leak into other credit products.
Maybe we're arguing semantics, but I wouldn't say that sub-prime consumers experiencing decreased access to funding is tantamount to a liquidity crisis.
Posted by:
TDDG |
June 27, 2007 at 03:16 PM
One view among the causes of the great depression was a general loss in confidence with the financial system.
The scorecard on the sub-prime meltdown is unsettling. The fact that both the credit ratings given these instruments and the current price are complete fabrications is a much bigger problem.
Should the entities that own this phony paper be allowed to continue the sham ? Or, in the interest of free markets, should they be ordered to revalue immediately ?
What other so called financial markets have been undermined by wall street. Equities ?
This is not just an isolated incident in an obscure security. The problem has ramifications across all free financial markets.
What a dilemna.
Posted by:
zinc |
June 27, 2007 at 10:55 PM
TDDG replies to mine of 03:30AM, "The loss is absorbed by the CDO structure and spread around many investors. Something like that doesn't sour investor appetite for credit risk."
From the looks of things, rather than being spread around and diluted, the risk is being distilled and concentrated to 200 proof by leverage as the hedge fund managers swing for the fences with other people's money.
"You also have to ask yourself, where is all the liquidity going to go? Drastic oversavings by non-US investors will be invested somehow."
As Gary writes above, some of the liquidity is going to disappear as it becomes undeniably clear that many of these loans will never be repaid. Still more of it will disappear as falling home prices annihilate illusory wealth and reduce consumption -- the Asians can't recycle dollars we don't send them, and as their overbuilt export industries are forced to cut wages and employment, political unrest may exacerbate conditions.
Posted by:
jm |
June 28, 2007 at 01:15 AM
It used to be that money supply multiplication through the fractional reserve banking mechanism was limited by the reserve requirements. The classic description was that $1000 of deposits into Bank A funded $900 of loans, which became deposits at other banks and funded $810 of loans, and so on in decreasing amounts (assuming a 10% reserve requirement). But some time ago the FRB reduced bank reserve requirements to zero for time deposits (presumably because the banks otherwise couldn't compete with non-bank lenders who were unencumbered with any reserve requirement).
It is interesting to contemplate what will happen if a consensus forms that the problem of banks being unable to compete with other entities that have no reserve requirements would be better dealt with by imposing reserve requirements on those other entities, rather than by removing them from the banks.
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jm |
June 28, 2007 at 01:33 AM
I disagree with the assertion that we are hearing an "unpleasant sound." On the contrary, I think we are observing and hearing a truly robust open market system as it reasonably "adjusts" to changes in "perceived" values of assets and instruments. This is what a *dynamic* system is *supposed* to be like.
On Monday, the entire first half of 2007 will be completely behind us, and without even a hint of any "systemic" crisis. Sure, we do not know what the final haircut will be for the markdown of mortgage-related assets and instruments, but the simply fact is that everybody has had more than enough time to fiddle with their portfolios to make sure that they can "handle" this "crisis." Sure, we will continue to see failures and bailouts here and there in various niches for a bit longer, but there doesn't seem to be *any* "pressure" building up that would cause a true "systemic" problem.
Geez, all this whining about the "subprime crisis" is making Paris Hilton, Chicken Little, Nervous Nellie, and The Boy Who Cried Wolf look like paragons of backbone.
Most of what is going on right now is simply the flip side of "talking up your book", where the circling vultures are trying to talk down the value of mortgage-related assets and instruments so that the harcut fire sale prices are as "sweet" as possible. That, plus the players who bailed out LTCM while Bear Stearns refused to participate in that bailout are now enjoying the "payback" of letting Bear twist slowly in the wind.
Rest assured, the system *is* working. It is a truly amazing thing to behold. Sure, it is not as smooth-running as a watch, but this is America where risk is *supposed* to be the heart and soul of our lives.
-- Jack Krupansky
Posted by:
Jack Krupansky |
June 28, 2007 at 01:57 PM
... without even a hint of any "systemic" crisis ...
I'd opine there are numerous hints of systemic crisis. And the fallout from ludicrously loose mortgage lending -- of which subprime is just the first component to surface, and probably not as large as the Alt-A component waiting in the wings -- has only just begun.
What we're seeing now is just the leading edge of the mortgage default wave, and foreclosures are not yet impacting market prices in most areas. But the supply glut alone is forcing prices down, such that as the still-to-come ARM resets hit home, more and more will be owing more than their home is worth and unable either to refinance or to sell without bringing money they don't have to the closing.
In Arlington Heights, IL there are now 34 homes listed at prices over $1 million, with five more at $999k or $995k. And the number of sales recorded as of May 11 in that price range? Just one. Between $900k and a million? Three. The corresponding numbers for all of 2006? Six and eleven.
Shall we do a little gedanken experiment?
Suppose the Top 40 listings on the MLS do finally sell this year, for the same prices as the Top 40 actual sales of 2006 (though it's clear even that would be optimistic). Let's line them up below and see the deltas line by line. We find that the average haircut off the asking price would be $350k, and is $250k even down at the 40th line -- one of the $995k homes would have to go for $750k. The average price drop is 28%
And this would be just the impact of oversupply -- foreclosures aren't even in the picture yet.
Top 40s
2007 Asking 2006 Sale Delta
$2,199,000 $2,478,000 ($279,000)
$1,899,900 $1,160,000 $739,900
$1,690,000 $1,100,000 $590,000
$1,580,872 $1,100,000 $480,872
$1,549,000 $1,040,000 $509,000
$1,499,000 $1,040,000 $459,000
$1,499,000 $994,000 $505,000
$1,490,000 $992,500 $497,500
$1,449,000 $955,000 $494,000
$1,425,000 $950,000 $475,000
$1,350,000 $950,000 $400,000
$1,350,000 $930,000 $420,000
$1,299,900 $915,000 $384,900
$1,299,000 $905,000 $394,000
$1,290,000 $900,500 $389,500
$1,274,900 $900,000 $374,900
$1,250,000 $900,000 $350,000
$1,250,000 $889,000 $361,000
$1,249,000 $880,000 $369,000
$1,229,000 $880,000 $349,000
$1,199,900 $875,000 $324,900
$1,199,000 $871,500 $327,500
$1,198,872 $865,000 $333,872
$1,195,000 $860,000 $335,000
$1,185,000 $855,000 $330,000
$1,185,000 $850,000 $335,000
$1,175,000 $850,000 $325,000
$1,149,000 $835,000 $314,000
$1,149,000 $825,000 $324,000
$1,125,000 $825,000 $300,000
$1,099,000 $810,000 $289,000
$1,089,000 $805,000 $284,000
$1,059,900 $797,500 $262,400
$1,049,000 $796,000 $253,000
$1,025,900 $787,500 $238,400
$999,000 $775,000 $224,000
$999,000 $774,000 $225,000
$999,000 $772,000 $227,000
$995,000 $762,500 $232,500
$995,000 $750,000 $245,000
Sum of deltas: $13,993,144
Average delta: $349,829
If someone's about to contend that these homes are owned by rich people who will be able to wait forever to get their wishing price, note that the MLS photos show more than 70% of these homes to be vacant, and most are new construction on teardown lots.
Posted by:
jm |
June 29, 2007 at 01:50 AM
jm: Even if all of your numbers and inferences were 100% correct, *none* of that would establish even the proverbial "hint" of a *systemic* crisis.
Your "experiment" is micro-economic in nature, whereas any "systemic" crisis would have to be macro-economic in nature. Micro vs. macro is never simply a matter of scaling up by multiplying by a large number.
Anecdotes are wonderful for illustrating issues, but they never "prove" a thesis, nor are they ever particularly useful when searching for "hints" about systemic risks.
There are still plenty of investors with huge amounts of money in liquid, low-yield financial instruments waiting anxiously for new opportunities for higher rates of return. Haircuts, the more dramatic the better, are a *good* thing in terms of opening up new investment opportunities in a low-yield "flat" world.
As far as your vacant homes, what fraction of them are "spec" homes? Add another column for the cost or "investment" that the builders/speculators have tied up in these properties. The big, open question is what hind of investment losses such "investors" can take before those losses might somehow have an impact on the big-picture "real" economy and not simply the profit picture for a narrow niche of speculative activity. I suspect that even in a worst-case scenario the big-picture impact as well as the "systemic" impact are likely to be barely noticable and lost in the noise of overall economic activity, probably even significantly less than the organic demographic growth that the U.S. domestic economy is experiencing every year.
If you actually have "hints" of *systemic* crisis... "Bring 'em on!"
-- Jack Krupansky
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Jack Krupansky |
June 29, 2007 at 11:45 AM
The vacant homes are almost all spec homes, Jack, but the point is not that the builders' losses are going to cause a systemic crisis -- indeed, if their true out-of-pocket construction costs were under $100/sqft, which they may well be, then even though the teardowns probably cost them about $300k, they'll only suffer decreased profits, not losses.
The point is that these houses aren't going to sell until they cut the prices 30+%, and those price cuts are going to crush the price structure of the entire market below. When million-plus homes are selling for $750k, the people who thought they owned $750k homes, and either paid $750k for them, or refinanced out equity based on that belief, or even just were expecting to cash out for retirement at that price, are going to have a rude awakening, most especially so because nearly the entire populace has come to believe that real estate is an absolutely sure-fire investment that can never go down.
If the builders have such huge margins they can cut their million-plus McMansions 30% and still make money, the carnage down below will be even worse -- because they'll keep on building even more!
A major factor fueling the recent bubble was that young people who formerly would not have bought homes until much later in life,and then would have bought them with 10% or 20% down using fixed-rate loans at prices that would have put their payments well under 40% of income, have been lured/ panicked by the sure-thing/priced-out-forever mantras into paying ridiculous prices with toxic ARMs and nearly nothing down, with payments far above 40% of income. Not only has this pulled forward demand -- they're not going to be first-time buyers in their 30s, as they've already got a home -- many will lose those homes to foreclosure or short sale and be so damaged financially they'll not be able to buy again for a decade; and they'll be pushing homes back into the glutted market, not taking them out. As those forced sales and foreclosures hit the market, prices will fall even further.
Most important, the beliefs that real estate can only go up, and that you must buy as much as can as soon as you can, with as much leverage as you can possibly get, is going to be totally destroyed -- just as it was in Japan.
I'll never forget the day in the late 90s when some young Japanese friends came out to Narita to give me a ride into Tokyo, and along the way mentioned that they were thinking of buying a condo, but had decided to wait a few years, "because prices will be even lower then."
Once bubble psychology starts to disintegrate in the face of a glut, the process is regenerative and can't be stopped.
A 30% average fall in the US housing price level will destroy $6 trillion of illusory wealth that most people thought was completely secure, and which fueled much more leveraged buying and borrowing than the dot-com bubble. Margin debt in the dot-com era peaked around $250 billion, only a fraction of the current margin debt equivalent in mortgages (and they only let you use 2:1 leverage in stocks).
When the baby boomers realize that the wealth they thought they had in their homes was never really there, and that they're going to have to save for retirement rather than fund it by cashing out of their home (and that that sure-thing-investment second home they bought is an albatross), consumption spending is going to take a nasty hit. This will be exacerbated by the fact that pension funds are significantly exposed to a real estate bust. The savings rate is going to go back to 8+%. Think about what that means not just to US business, but also to the export-dependent economies of Asia.
But of course you won't even see a hint of systemic crisis in this, right, Jack?
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jm |
June 29, 2007 at 05:27 PM
jm: Hmmm... "But of course you won't even see a hint of systemic crisis in this, right,"
That's correct. Nothing in your *hypothetical* scenario is *real* *evidence* of a "systemic" crisis. Hypothetical versus real... you do understand the difference? Of course you do, but for reasons unknown to me, you defer to hypothetical over real. Why is that?
I'm always willing to consider alternative points of view and certainly always willing to look at hard *data*, but when you've had an opportunity to come up with *real* evidence, all you come up with is a hypothetical story of a hypothetical chain of events cthat is completely divorced from reality.
So, do you have any actual, real, live evidence of any hint of systemic crisis? Not hypotheticals, but real evidence?
From all the hard evidence I have been able to access, it still appears that the overall financial "system" is humming along quite well and not showing *any* signs of a "systemic crisis" approaching the level of the S&L or LTCM crises.
You are of course certainly free to contrive any and all hypotheticals (where would the dismal science be without hyptheticals), but I would suggest that you refrain from claiming or suggesting that any hypothetical constitutes evidence (or even a hint) of a likely outcome.
-- Jack Krupansky
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Jack Krupansky |
July 02, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Jack,
So you consider my Arlington Heights Top 40 data above "hypothetical"? I don't think you can get more real than actual 2007 listings versus actual 2006 sales, and the actual fact that 70+% of the listings are vacant, and that as of May 11 there had been only one, repeat one, sale in the town in the asking price range of the Top 40, and only three more even down to $900k.
What matters is not whether a prediction is "hypothetical", all predictions, including that "the sun will rise tomorrow" are "hypothetical". What matters is the degree to which a prediction is based on relevant historical experience, and we know from experience that when loose lending allows assets to be bid up to prices far out of line with historical levels and other price levels (e.g., wages), a crash and severe systemic strain nearly always follow.
You wrote, "all you come up with is a hypothetical story of a hypothetical chain of events that is completely divorced from reality."
Neither the Top 40, nor the pulling forward of demand among under-30s, nor the beginning of the end of abusive mortgage lending is divorced from reality.
"From all the hard evidence I have been able to access, it still appears that the overall financial 'system' is humming along quite well and not showing *any* signs of a 'systemic crisis' approaching the level of the S&L or LTCM crises."
If you review the history of the S&L and the LTCM crises, you will see that were no "signs" at all before the latter, and that the numerous signs preceding the former were all of exactly the same nature as those I described.
In 1929 in the US, 1989 in Tokyo, and again in 2000 in the US, the overall financial systems were, at least judging by the sort of "hard data" you demand, humming along quite well right up to the point of crash, with no "hints of systemic crisis" other than numerous variations on the theme of loose-lending-fueled asset pricing excess -- and predictable disintegration thereof -- that we see around us today.
I must add that it's also a bit odd that you seem to consider the S&L and LTCM debacles as "systemic crises", and that there is no hint of problems as large as them. Relative to the crises now approaching, they were small potatoes.
Posted by:
jm |
July 03, 2007 at 01:27 AM
I must add that I am not one of those who believes there is going to be any complete collapse of the financial system. There was no complete collapse of the financial system even during the Great Depression (except perhaps in Germany). I do believe we are going to have a long "period of adjustment" that will be quite painful to a significant fraction of the population.
Posted by:
jm |
July 03, 2007 at 01:45 AM
jm: I'm sorry you misinterpreted my point that was not a reference to your specific anecdotal evidence (specific housing prices), but was a reference to the long chain of inferences that you drew about the future from that one anecdote.
As far as "relevant historical experience", I do hope that you will acknowledge the distinction between corelation and causation and acknowledge that history does tell us that we need to consider all factors and not a cherry-picked set of factors when considering any situation, and most importantly, that the future can *never* be so mechanically predicted from cherry-picked data in the manner that you have suggested. Sure, the your outcome *might* transpire, just as any other outcome *might* hypothetically transpire, but you seem to be claiming that it *will* transpire, which is a strong claim that doesn't seem justified given the nature of the financial system and economic scenario we have with us at present, in particular, the *huge* levels of liquidity combined with stubbornly low interest rates and stubbornly low inflation expectations.
If LTCM showed us one thing, it is what the Fed can do without actually doing anything.
I should acknowledge that there are a range of interpretations for the term "crisis" and it is possible that you simply interpret the term differently than I. To me, a crisis is when life comes to a screeching halt and everybody stands still with their mouths open looking at each other wondering what to do. I gather that for you a "crisis" is simply an issue that pops up and must be dealt with that even hints about a change in the status quo.
So, when you say "the crises now approaching", should I simply interpret that as "the issues and tough decisions now approaching"?
-- Jack Krupansky
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Jack Krupansky |
July 03, 2007 at 11:02 AM
The less didactic tone of your response is most welcome. Regret I cannot respond in any detail until tomorrow. See you then (if not, have a good 4th).
Posted by:
jm |
July 03, 2007 at 04:11 PM
June 19, 2007
Housing, Wherein We Learn Not Much
What can you say about this month's housing news? Calculated Risk suggests:
[Today's Census Bureau New Residential Construction] report shows builders are still starting too many projects, and that residential construction employment is still too high.
The Skeptical Speculator seconds the emotion...
As I've said before, the housing market will take a while to recover, especially with the prevailing trend in interest rates.
... and Barry Ritholtz makes it unanimous:
... despite the hopes of the bottom-callers, there is still a ways to go.
The Nattering Naybob likes the way the folks at the National Association of Homebuilders sum up the situation:
Inside the number: The lowest builder confidence since 1991. NAHB President Brian Catalde:
"Builders continue to report serious impacts of tighter lending standards on current home sales as well as cancellations, and they continue to trim prices... to work down sizeable inventory positions."
Flyin in the face of Fed speak: "Home sales most likely will erode somewhat further in the months ahead and improvements in housing starts probably will not be recorded until early next year.
As a result, we expect housing to exert a drag on economic growth during the balance of 2007."
I'm not so sure "flyin' in the face of Fed speak" is a completely apt characterization. Calculated Risk, for example, cites Nouriel Roubini citing the Financial Times citing Ben Bernanke:
Changes in house prices could have a bigger effect on consumption than the traditional “wealth effect” suggests, Ben Bernanke said on Friday in comments that offer some insight into how the Federal Reserve may think about the continuing problems in the US housing market.
The Federal Reserve chairman told a conference hosted by the Atlanta Fed that, in addition to making homeowners richer or poorer, changes in house prices might influence the cost and availability of credit to consumers.
Greg Ip expands on that theme (hat tip, Brad DeLong):
Ideas that Ben Bernanke pioneered years before becoming Federal Reserve Chairman could prove important in evaluating how financial stress, such as the subprime mortgage mess, affects the economy.
... Although Mr. Bernanke doesn’t say so specifically, the record level of consumer leverage today means a change in asset prices (such as homes or stocks) can produce a much larger change in consumers’ net worth, and as a result their ability to borrow and spend. “If the financial accelerator hypothesis is correct, changes in home values may affect household borrowing and spending by somewhat more than suggested by the conventional wealth effect,” that is, the tendency of a changes in asset prices to make consumers feel more or less wealthy, and thus spend differently. That is because “changes in homeowners’ net worth also affect their … costs of credit.”
It is clear that some are willing to assert that this scenario is more than hypothetical. Again from Calculated Risk:
From the LA Times: Report from UCLA team skirts the R-word
"We suspect that the weakness in the housing market is finally spilling over into consumption spending," wrote senior economist David Shulman in the quarterly forecast being released today. "Retail sales appeared to stall in April and automobile sales have become decidedly weak.
"This is not a recession, but it is certainly close," Shulman said.
To tell you the truth, I'm not quite sure what Dr. Shulman finds so convincing. Under the category of spilling over, I think Greg Ip offers the right entry:
As yet, there has been little spillover from these developments into consumer spending or the economy overall.
As for a conclusion, I'll sign on with The Capital Spectator:
For mere mortals, the only reaction is wait, wait for more data. Yes, we've been waiting now for months and still we've no clarity. Grin and bear it.
June 19, 2007 in Data Releases, Housing | Permalink
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In SoCal, where credit's STILL readily available to all except the downtrodden, we ain't seen nothing yet. I don't think we'll feel the brunt of the fallout until we see a significant tightening in lending standards &/or a hike in int. rates above AG's glass ceiling of 7%.
In the meantime an entire generation of Bubble-zone dwellers is being locked out of buying into the American Dream.
Sorry, but I don't see how this can benefit us in the long term. If someone has an inclination I'd love to hear why a recession would be such a bad thing?
Posted by:
bailey |
June 19, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Would ya sit in a tree during a tornado? We're up a tree... and a recession, in my humble opinion, would be a VERY BAD THING.
Posted by:
Gayla |
June 19, 2007 at 11:31 PM
I'm so glad this blog is here. I'm new to economics and when I read all the negative views about the economy out there, I get quite frightened.
But I feel better coming back to this blog where David will always be there to assure us there's nothing to worry about, everything's perfectly all right.
Posted by:
Amy |
June 19, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Real consumer spending growth in April and May averaged 0.1% vs 0.3% over 6 and 12 months. New light vehicle sales, on a units basis, have fallen for 5 months. Chain store sales, having posted one of the worst months on record recently, have recovered to something just over 2% y/y growth, well below the average of the past couple of years. Paul Kasriel has deflated retail sales by the CPI goods series (since we don't have May real PCE yet) to show that real goods sales have fallen in the past two months.
Timing allows us to blame gasoline prices, but there is a fairly large pile of evidence that consumer spending is not as strong now as it has been in the recent past. For longer-term analytic purposes, we would like to be able to tease apart the effects of the wealth effect and gasoline prices, but I'm think I detect a bit of inertia in the recent "all better now" story that is keeping the Ips of the world from acknowledging various consumer demand data series show.
Posted by:
kharris |
June 20, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Regarding Bernankes "financial accelerator hypothesis": are increases in mortgage equity withdrawals (MEW) pumping up personal consumption expenditures (PCE)? If they are then will declining MEW drive down PCE?
James Paulsen at Wells Capital thinks that there's no relationship between MEW and PCE. In fact he observes that MEW is related to new home sales. His conclusion: as MEWs decrease the new home market shrinks. He expects a housing bust but not a consumption bust. Read it here (PDF format alert):
Posted by:
W_T_F |
June 20, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Yes, wait and wait some more. Now we are awaiting a second half recovery but from where will that recovery come? The longer we wait, the more likely a mishap will occur.
Posted by:
Lord |
June 20, 2007 at 01:46 PM
Thanks for the mention Dave,
I just wanted to sit in the hammock or putt around on the boat...
but you made me think, so back at ya...
http://naybob.blogspot.com/2007/06/fed-speak-redux.html
Oh yeah, SoCal's real pain will start in October...
We are up a tree...
Dave makes me think, and that doesn't feel good.. in fact its downright painful at times and difficult most times... (I kid Dave, I kid)
Consumption in Japans 17 year deflation stayed the same...
Consumer spending is way off in unit sales, ask a trucker. Since its measured usually in $ amounts, the stagflated prices make it look OK.
And the LORD is right, a large miscalculation is coming.
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The Nattering Naybob |
June 20, 2007 at 04:26 PM
June 09, 2007
Like Ben Said
Calculated Risk makes an interesting observation:
The trade deficit, ex-petroleum, appears to have peaked at about the same time as Mortgage Equity Withdrawal in the U.S.
"Interestingly, the change in U.S. home mortgage debt over the past half-century correlates significantly with our current account deficit. To be sure, correlation is not causation, and there have been many influences on both mortgage debt and the current account."
Alan Greenspan, Feb, 2005... Declining MEW is one of the reasons I forecast the trade deficit to decline in '07. And a declining trade deficit also has possible implications for U.S. interest rates; as the trade deficit declines, rates may rise in the U.S. because foreign CBs will have less to invest in the U.S.. This is why I forecast rates to rise in '07.
I think that CR has the causation running from the housing market to the trade deficit, but as always there is another interpretation. I take you back to one of my favorite Fed speeches of all time, from the current Fed chairman:
What then accounts for the rapid increase in the U.S. current account deficit? My own preferred explanation focuses on what I see as the emergence of a global saving glut in the past eight to ten years...
The current account positions of the industrial countries adjusted endogenously to these changes in financial market conditions. I will focus here on the case of the United States, which bore the bulk of the adjustment...
After the stock-market decline that began in March 2000, new capital investment and thus the demand for financing waned around the world. Yet desired global saving remained strong. The textbook analysis suggests that, with desired saving outstripping desired investment, the real rate of interest should fall to equilibrate the market for global saving. Indeed, real interest rates have been relatively low in recent years, not only in the United States but also abroad. From a narrow U.S. perspective, these low long-term rates are puzzling; from a global perspective, they may be less so.
The weakening of new capital investment after the drop in equity prices did not much change the net effect of the global saving glut on the U.S. current account. The transmission mechanism changed, however, as low real interest rates rather than high stock prices became a principal cause of lower U.S. saving. In particular, during the past few years, the key asset-price effects of the global saving glut appear to have occurred in the market for residential investment, as low mortgage rates have supported record levels of home construction and strong gains in housing prices. Indeed, increases in home values, together with a stock-market recovery that began in 2003, have recently returned the wealth-to-income ratio of U.S. households to 5.4, not far from its peak value of 6.2 in 1999 and above its long-run (1960-2003) average of 4.8. The expansion of U.S. housing wealth, much of it easily accessible to households through cash-out refinancing and home equity lines of credit, has kept the U.S. national saving rate low--and indeed, together with the significant worsening of the federal budget outlook, helped to drive it lower...
The direct implication, of course, was that the reversal of U.S. current account deficits would likely be associated with higher real interest rates, a weakening of foreign-capital financed investment, and higher saving in the U.S. (of which a slowdown in mortgage equity withdrawals could be a part). It is worht noting that Chairman Bernanke was decidedly less than sanguine about the consequences of such adjustments:
... in the long run, productivity gains are more likely to be driven by nonresidential investment, such as business purchases of new machines. The greater the extent to which capital inflows act to augment residential construction and especially current consumption spending, the greater the future economic burden of repaying the foreign debt is likely to be.
Whether or not Mr. Bernanke believes that we find ourselves in the process of meeting those burdens I cannot say. But those who buy the global saving glut story -- as I do -- have acknowledged all along that the day of adjustment would look pretty much like it does at the moment.
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There is actually an even simpler explanation:
1) Net foreign investment must equal the cumulative trade deficit (their dollars must by definition ultimately return to the US)
2) Foreign investment in the US can be assumed to be in all asset classes, since even if it is not their buying of one asset will make other assets more attractive to domestic investors.
3) Therefore, changes in net foreign investment must be equally offset by changes in net trade and reduced borrowing by US consumers must be accompanied by less spending on foreign goods.
It doesn't have to hold in any given year, but in the long run it is almost a mathematical identity.
Posted by:
Trent |
June 09, 2007 at 03:21 PM
According to Roach, there is no global savings glut, just a shift in the mix away from rich countries.
http://www.morganstanley.com/views/gef/archive/2007/20070604-Mon.html
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BR |
June 09, 2007 at 04:03 PM
The current account deficit may narrow because our demand for foreign credit weakens or because the supply of that credit weakens. In both cases, the implication for the dollar is that it declines, other influences held unchanged. However, the implication for interest rates depends critically on whether the reduced external borrowing reflects demand- or supply-side influences. A deceleration of MEW in resopnse to a less robust housing sector -- assuming it is even relevant -- would be a demand-side development and could not generate upward pressure on interest rates. Calculated Risk has this point wroong.
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Gerard MacDonell |
June 15, 2007 at 01:58 PM
May 30, 2007
Housing Price Expectations: Getting Less Bad...
... at least according to futures for the cities in the Case-Shiller "composite 10" index:
That's still not a pretty picture, but it is the second month in a row that expectations on housing prices have "improved." Could it be that markets are beginning to sense a bottom?
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Expectations are a waste of time and are always wrong. Bad post and completely missing the point.
You always start with the builders. When they begin to improve, "expectations" will be still "sucky".
Mercy is this post really missing it.
Posted by:
Johnson |
May 30, 2007 at 10:30 PM
ummm, bottom? No.
What you're seeing is spring seasonality working its magic; the bottom won't be during a spring.
Going into fall, we'll see inventories start climbing; when fall sales rise significantly from the previous year, that may be your bottom. I don't expect to see that until fall 2008/2009. And I wouldn't count on a 'V' ramp up; more like a couple of years spent grinding out a couple of percentage points to the upside.
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eightnine2718281828mu5 |
May 30, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Looks like nobody plays the Futures here...otherwise they'd be glad for this opportunity to short.
The consumers are happy too according to the polls which are able to tease out those wonderful spring days and the hope that is shining from every little blossom...from the objective economic expectations. It B the Wonder of Seasonal Adjustment (not the meat tenderizer)...and the precursor questions about any family fatalities in Iraq.
Ok then.
Dave, this may sound cruel and harsh to your bottom question, "Could it be that markets are beginning to sense a bottom?'
No.
And it won't be until house prices get back in line with wages or the real aliens land with their boodles.
Seriously (I'll try anything), these official numbers it seems to me hide the severity of the actual house price declines. Could it be that higher priced houses are selling that make the median price decline so miniscule? Is this pattern sustainable of will there be a sudden glut of cheaper houses on the market as REO houses reach a threshold?
The Futures Charts is a finesse of our common sense, gettin us to countenance negligible house price changes, no? But some of us know (just knowing...such a gift. Smell this rose and then tell me about your expectations.) that if this story was about house price changes this minute, it wouldn't be a Futures item.
My common sense is not so easily bamboozled, your's?
Posted by:
calmo |
May 31, 2007 at 12:49 AM
I'm back with a new tan and a reinvigorated zeal to aimlessly harp against OUR tendency to wrap political argument in flags of sound Economic "reasonings". I apologise to no one who tires of my attempts to question the obvious, but I readily will leave any board at the request of the owner.
Here, we're expected to agree with futures' players because - markets usually get it right. But, what about another old highly revered adage - the one about reversion to the mean?
The ONLY common sense explanation I can think of at this time why speculators would wager hard earned money on the proposition that we won't see a housing price reversion to its long-term mean growth rate is a STRONG belief BB's FED will (continue to?) intervene strongly enough within the time period of the bet to avoid a substantive price correction.
Personally, I haven't a clue how tripling the prices for more than 40% of the homes in the country in just ten years can be in our society's best long-term interest. (Didn't AG recently express a similar concern?)
But, what do I know? I still believe our best Economists have a professional responsibility to at least try to keep their political yearnings separate from their economic reasonings.
http://www.belowthecrowd.com/photos/ackman.jpg?ref=patrick.net
Posted by:
bailey |
May 31, 2007 at 09:21 AM
Prices were falling too fast, indeed.
As I expect the housing prices to decline for another 2-4 years, I should admit that recent speed of decline is not sustainable. To fall for another 4 years prices should decline a whole lot slower.
Posted by:
theroxylandr |
May 31, 2007 at 10:18 AM
I would suggest that some of you acquaint yourself with the concept of "stickiness." People, for some reason, have a strong attachment to nominal values. How many times have you heard how expensive bread has gotten from your parents / grandparents, because it used to be 10 cents in some bygone era (before I was born). When in fact, the inflation adjusted price of bread has fallen.
My point is not about bread, it is about people's attachment to nominal pricing, unless there is significant economic pressure (like losing one's job), there is little incentive to sell for less than what you perceive as the market value. California during the early 1990s is a great example. Look at the OFHEO data for LA, SF, etc, and you will see what I'm referring to. Interestingly enough, the real action in single-family REO's is in the Midwest. Everyone's been waiting for California to get hammered, but it hasn't because of the job factor. The looming factor if it materializes is a credit crunch. Given the dispersion of risk, and lots of global liquidity, this seems unlikely at the moment.
Posted by:
Nathan |
May 31, 2007 at 01:02 PM
but it is the second month in a row that expectations on housing prices have "improved." Could it be that markets are beginning to sense a bottom?
More likely it's wishful thinking. The bottom is still a year or two out.
Posted by:
Tip |
May 31, 2007 at 10:13 PM
I actually trade futures, so I have a pretty good sense of when a market is really predictive or not. Sometimes they get out of whack, and they let me make some money.
I think this post is a good post because you need to ask the question of when we hit bottom. It is a critical question to a Fed govenor, because if we have hit bottom, it may be time to start hiking rates.
With regard to the CME futures contract, it just doesn't do enough volume to be totally predictive. Monday I could come in and put in some huge orders to move the market one way or another. Open interest is another measure, and there is not enough open here to constitute predictability.
But it certainly bears watching. Maybe I will put it on my GLOBEX screen. My gut tells me to short any rally in Florida, but SFO's real estate laws are so restrictive, you could go long there and hardly ever lose!
Posted by:
jeff |
June 03, 2007 at 09:03 PM
Great post and some great comments as well. I learned a lot about some of our problems. Keep up the good work everyone.
Posted by:
Corporate Housing Oklahoma |
April 07, 2009 at 02:28 PM








"those in unaffordable mortgages from the very beginning, who were implicitly relying on increasing house prices to refinance or sell for a profit;
those who purchased the house for strictly investment purposes and now see little or no hope of making a profit."
I am one who would say that there should be no help for the people in these groups. They were gambling, purely, and should take their own losses. F- them, and investor-horses they rode in on.
And a question: you say, "The costs borne by the servicer/investor are much larger than those borne by the government, which may not be such a bad thing in principal but in practice may result in low participation rates." But isn't the relevant question, at least for servicers/investors, whether those costs are more than they would face if there were more foreclosures? Isn't that always the question for them in doing loan mods? If the servicers don't participate on those terms, aren't they then assuming that their foreclosure losses won't be that bad? I mean, I have no sympathy for the investors; they were careless, and should lose.
One of the things I object to in the mortgage bailout plan is the notion that the government can or should prevent house prices from falling further. The problem with this is that prices in many markets are still fairly inflated relative to incomes; that is, they're still basically unaffordable. As long as prices remain unaffordable, there are going to be a lot of foreclosures--it's just prolonging the pain. The only good long-term solution is to allow prices to reach a level that's actually affordable to buyers under normal (pre-bubble) credit standards. The housing market shouldn't get more stimulus--it should get less!
My wife and I make a decent, middle-class income, and yet we can't find reasonably affordable houses in our area. And now the government wants to use our tax money to make sure it stays that way! And to pay the mortgages of fools who got in over their heads. Do they understand why we might resent that a wee little bit?