December 20, 2011
Uncertainty about uncertainty
One of the hotly debated issues among those debating policy in the pages of various Fed publications (virtual and otherwise) is why job creation in the United States cannot seem to break out of its sluggish mode. One potential source is an elevated level of uncertainty about the political and economic future that is damping business enthusiasm for risk and, consequently, holding back the expansion.
Heightened uncertainty as an impediment to growth has intuitive appeal to many and, in our Reserve Bank's experience, considerable anecdotal support from business contacts. Unfortunately, intuition and anecdote don't quite rise to the level of evidence. Fortunately, the work of uncovering the evidence (one way or the other) is under way. One example is a recent entry by Mark Schweitzer and Scott Shane in the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland's Economic Commentary series:
"In this Commentary, we empirically examine the hypothesis that 'policy uncertainty' adversely impacts small business owners' expansion plans. To do this, we looked at the statistical association between data on small business plans to hire and make capital expenditures and a measure of 'policy uncertainty.' The data on small business plans cover January 1986 through July 2011 and were collected by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB)."
The picture relating the claims of respondents to the NFIB survey and the uncertainty measure employed by the authors is pretty compelling:
The correlation that can clearly be seen in this chart survives more formal statistical analysis:
"We find statistically significant negative effects of policy uncertainty on small business owners' plans to hire and make capital expenditures over the 1986 to 2011 period. We also find a large effect of the economic downturn on small business plans, but the two effects do appear to be independent. The negative effects of policy uncertainty show up even when we weight the components of policy uncertainty in several different ways. The results also stand up when consumer confidence is controlled for, suggesting that the effects are distinct from consumer sentiment."
The authors note the appropriate caveats but are pretty clear about how they read the results of the analysis:
"While this statistical analysis is informative about the relationship between policy uncertainty and small business expansion plans, we cannot say that 'policy uncertainty' causes small business hiring and capital expenditure plans to decline. That is because a purely statistical model cannot identify fundamental causes. But whatever the fundamental cause, our analysis indicates that adding information about policy uncertainty improves our ability to explain the survey responses provided by the NFIB's survey respondents.
"In that sense, we can say that the correlations between the two are strong enough to reject the argument that policy uncertainty is irrelevant for currently weak small business expansion plans. In our view, policymakers should take seriously the widespread anecdotal reports that policy uncertainty is adversely affecting small business owners' expansion plans."
I think this study is really intriguing, but I would add another caveat to the results, emphasized not too many posts back here at macroblog:
"Talking about the role of the average or typical small business in job creation is problematic. Discussing it is challenging because job creation is highly skewed along the age dimension of small firms."
Smallness per se is not the defining characteristic of the businesses that are responsible for driving job creation. In fact, research shows that once firm age is controlled for, no systematic relationship exists between net growth and firm size. The distinction between young and mature firms—which our own regular poll of small businesses verifies is important—is absent in the NFIB data that Schweitzer and Shane exploit.
Although the Schweitzer-Shane study is a good start to turning anecdotal reports into evidence, the results would be more compelling if they pertained to the actual universe of companies that we would expect to be creating jobs—that is, firms that are young, not just small.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
December 20, 2011 in Data Releases, Economic Growth and Development, Employment, Labor Markets | Permalink
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Posted by:
DirkKS |
December 20, 2011 at 05:29 PM
I am of the opinion that the number of small business owners is significant, because they represent the largest number and basic core of our economy.
Unfortunately, the sector is being ignored. Any significant recovery must begin from modest growth of business in this area, that will lead to new hirings.
Posted by:
Hugo A. Castro |
December 27, 2011 at 02:39 PM
I believe the focus should be on hoe to provide sufficient jobs and not just count the number of successful businesses.
Posted by:
ultrasonic cleaner |
January 03, 2012 at 08:33 AM
October 21, 2011
Is the growth tide turning?
It has been a tough year for forecasters, as the Atlanta Fed's President Dennis Lockhart explained in a speech delivered Tuesday evening:
"The basic story of the first half of this year was one of disappointment versus expectations. At the beginning of the year, the consensus forecast had gross domestic product (GDP) growth for 2011 in the range of 3 to 4 percent. Though the Atlanta Fed's forecast was at the lower end of that range, we generally shared the view that the recovery was firmly established…
"A pretty clear picture of just how bad the first quarter was became apparent toward the end of the second quarter, when the FOMC met in late June. At that point, notwithstanding weakness in the early months of the year, the widely held outlook was that growth would rebound in the second half. Many anticipated that the effects of the price and disaster shocks would quickly dissipate…
"As the summer progressed, the data surprises were unrelenting and on the negative side of expectations.
By the time of the early August FOMC meeting it was clear to my Atlanta Fed colleagues and me that we had to rethink our position. The momentum of the economy looked a lot weaker than was our assessment earlier in the summer."
That story is well-captured by a picture of the evolution of Blue Chip consensus forecasts over the course of the year:
As President Lockhart explains, what has been most worrisome is the cumulative nature of the forecast errors implied in the above chart:
"Let me mention parenthetically that, given the complexity and dynamism of the economy, forecasting is fraught with errors and misses. One of my colleagues says the only thing he can forecast with certainty is that his forecast will be wrong. It's when forecasts are persistently wrong in the same direction, and by a substantial measure, that you worry you've missed the real story."
That reality can, of course, work in a positive direction as well as a negative direction. The encouraging news is that the forecasting mistakes have been accumulating in the direction of excess pessimism:
"We at the Atlanta Fed regularly monitor the data series that directly enter into the GDP calculation, along with important other series, including employment… In the months leading up to July, the downside surprises in the data dominated. In August and September, upside and downside surprises were roughly equal. But in October, the surprises have generally been to the upside."
One aspect of this analysis is called a "nowcasting" exercise that generates quarterly GDP estimates in real time. The technical details of this exercise are described here, but the idea is fairly simple. We use incoming data on 100-plus economic series to forecast 17 components of GDP for the current quarter. Those forecasts of GDP components are then aggregated to get a current-quarter estimate of overall GDP growth.
The outcomes of this exercise have been as positive in the third quarter as they were negative for the first two quarters of the year:
At this point, we'll interrupt this blog post to offer a few disclaimers. First, we wouldn't want to put too much weight on the specific number cranked out by this exercise. Also, beyond the usual warnings about the imprecision of statistical estimates, we'll add that much of the data being used in the estimates are subject to revision—and we don't yet have very much information on activity in October. Finally, even with the improvements in performance versus expectations, the view of the moment is still centered on near-term growth that is less than stellar, as President Lockhart described in his remarks:
"[M]ost private sector forecasters envision growth in 2012 approaching 2.5 percent. In the opinion of many economists, that 2.5 percent approximates the steady-state growth rate of the economy's potential. This rate would certainly be an improvement over 2011 as a whole. The problem is without growth measurably better than 2.5 percent, little progress will be made in absorbing slack in the economy—above all, labor market slack."
But after the long run of negative news that has characterized most of this year, we are for now at least moving in the right direction.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
and
Patrick Higgins, economist at the Atlanta Fed
October 21, 2011 in Data Releases, Economic Growth and Development | Permalink
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Whether you’re in the ‘”ore optimistic” or the “less optimistic” camp, the latest improvements in the various forecasts reflect an assumption that there will be no major negative surprises this year. I’m not at all sure that such an assumption is a safe bet this year. There are still plenty of things that can go wrong in this delicate economy and slowly thawing credit environment.
Posted by:
Stop Foreclosure |
October 23, 2011 at 09:38 AM
I suspect there's been some inventory clearing that has pushed GDP up temporarily.
I also suspect that many people are like me and suffering from Thrift Fatigue. I've been splurging a bit on resaurants and also splurged on a excercise machine (which was marked down 60%) to get me through the winter without having to go to the gym. I also bought a plane ticket to visit family over christmas.
This is cutting into my saving, which are already inadequate, and I will need to really buckle-down this winter.
Posted by:
aaron |
October 24, 2011 at 07:18 AM
My clothes are also getting threadbare and will need to be replaced.
Posted by:
aaron |
October 24, 2011 at 07:19 AM
In a word, no. Consumption rose by 2.4% in Q3, hooray! The savings rate in September was 3.6%, compared to 5.3% in June. Sound sustainable to you? Friday's payroll number looks like another whopping 100K. Of course, we need to be vigilant about inflation, right? Let's see the employment cost index in q3 rose at a 2-year low of +0.3%. Core PCE "the Fed's preferred inflation measure" in September came in, uh, negative. Of course it could get better next year except unemployment benefit extensions will expire along with payroll tax breaks.
Dave, are you deliberately trying to foment social unrest and stoke the "occupy wall street" crowd with comments like this?
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Rich888 |
October 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM
October 07, 2011
Two more job market charts
Correction: One of macroblog's careful readers noted we mistakenly stated that the job creation pace from January 2011 through the date of the blog posting averaged 96,000 jobs per month. The 96,000 jobs per month actually applies to the average job creation pace over the previous three months at the time of the posting. We made this correction in the last sentence of the second paragraph. (10/21/11)
If you are looking for the full rundown on the September employment report, there is, as usual, plenty of good commentary to be found in the blogosphere. I'll add a couple more graphs to the pile, similar to exercises we have done with gross domestic product in the past.
Payroll employment growth has averaged about 110,000 jobs a month since February 2010, the jobs low point associated with the crisis and recession. This growth level compares, unfavorably, with the 158,000 jobs added per month during the last jobs recovery period from August 2003 (the low point following the 2001 recession) through November 2007 (the month before the recent recession began). One hundred and ten thousand jobs a month compares favorably, however, to the 96,000 job creation pace for the past three months.
Are these sorts of differences material? If the economy can find its way to creating jobs at the same rate as the last recovery—which nobody remembers as particularly off-the-chart spectacular—we would be back to the prerecession level of overall employment by spring 2015. If, on the other hand, we can only eke out the sub-100k pace we've seen this year, that date moves out to 2017:
So we do eventually get there in terms of recovering the jobs lost during the course of the past four years. The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of the unemployment rate. Because the unemployment rate has more moving pieces—like assumptions about labor force participation rates (or how many people jump in and out of looking for jobs)—back-of-the-envelope calculations are a bit more speculative than the simple employment paths in the previous chart. But with a few assumptions, such as the presumptions that the labor force will grow at the same rate as census population projections (for the aficionados, my calculations also assume that the ratio of household employment to establishment employment is equal to its average value since January of this year), the unemployment rates associated with job growth of 158,000, 110,000, and 96,000 per month would look something like this:
These paths are just suggestive, of course, but I think they tell the story. The same jobs recovery rate of the prerecession period would get the unemployment rate down below 7 percent in four years or so. But at the pace we have been going this year, things get worse, not better.
Update: Many other fine pictures are available at Angry Bear, Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis, The Capital Spectator, Modeled Behavior, and lots from Calculated Risk (here and here, the latter with related links). At Econbrowser, guest blogger Mike Duecker delivers forecasts for 150,000 jobs per month—but not until mid-2012.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
October 7, 2011 in Data Releases, Employment | Permalink
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it would be interesting to compare public sector job losses in this recession to the last and see if that's the difference...
i believe ~600,000 jobs have been lost in state & local govt. this time around...
Posted by:
rjs |
October 08, 2011 at 04:44 AM
Does it matter that the job growth is in the private sector? We are losing jobs in the public sector, so growth in the private sector, if I recall correctly, is not that far off from what we had in the last recovery.
Steve
Posted by:
steve |
October 08, 2011 at 10:55 AM
Absolutely fascinating work. I can't help but notice a re-pricing going on as well. Certainly in regard to consumer durable's, real prices seem to have been falling, domestic wages as well appear in some sectors to be re-adjusting as well. Is there something going on in the economy of which unemployment is just a symptom?
Posted by:
Thomas A. Coss |
October 09, 2011 at 01:16 PM
steve,
Private sector employment, as of mid-September, was 109.3 mln (says the payroll survey). In January of 2008 (the peak), it was 115.6 mln. So here we are, 19 months from the trough in private payroll employment, and still 6.3 mln shy of the peak in private employment. If the growth pace is as good as it was in some prior recessions, it is still a far cry from what is needed to restore the prior peak in private employment, much less absorb new labor market entrants.
Government employment, at 22 mln in September, was 582k below the peak (ex-census), and still falling. Public sector job losses are vastly smaller than the current shortfall in private jobs. It would be good to have an increase in any form of employment, but it is weak demand for workers in the private sector which is at the root of our labor market problems.
Posted by:
kharris |
October 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Why hire when you can do more with less? This American system of labor is not only broken, it's dead. All of you are better educated, and more productive than any of your ancestors for what? A "manufacturing" job? Please.
Perhaps a job isn't what Americans should be looking for anymore. Let the Asians work, I'll surf the web.
Posted by:
FormerSSResident |
October 13, 2011 at 07:43 PM
Another view at the same topic. It is better to use real GDP per capita instead of job creation in order to predict unemployment: http://mechonomic.blogspot.com/2011/10/some-corrections-to-david-altigs-job.html
Although, for employment is should work by definition.
Posted by:
kio |
October 15, 2011 at 05:46 AM
Wow, so you're saying a 2 year shock will take ~15 years to undo assuming best case scenario...
Posted by:
Ess |
October 16, 2011 at 01:51 AM
September 08, 2011
Another cut at the postrecession job picture
There is not much to be said about the August employment report released last Friday—or not much good, anyway. The ongoing updates at Calculated Risk provide a chronicle of the questions and challenges that have characterized the postrecession period. An exhaustive set of graphs are spread across several posts, here, here, and here. The last post in the series focused on construction employment specifically and includes this observation, which is based on the addition of 26,000 construction jobs in 2011 through August:
"After five consecutive years of job losses for residential construction (and four years for total construction), this is a baby step in the right direction. However there will not be a strong increase in residential construction until the excess supply of housing is absorbed."
Given the likely pace of turnaround in the housing market, that sounds like a problem. It is not much surprise that employment in the construction sector is, and likely will continue to be, significantly weaker than it was before the recession. Can the same be said of most other sectors? The following chart shows pre- and postrecession, cross-sector average monthly changes in payroll employment, broadly defined according to U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' classifications. For reference, the size of the circles in the chart reflect the relative prerecession size of the sector in terms of employment.
A few points:
- The 45-degree line represents points where average monthly employment changes before the recession (from December 2001 through November 2007, precisely) are exactly the same as the average changes after the recession (July 2009 through August 2011). Consistent with the slow pace of overall employment growth during this recovery, the majority of circles representing different sectors lie below the 45-degree line.
- In general, the pattern of circles is such that those sectors with relatively high employment changes prerecession are those that have exhibited relatively high changes during the recovery. In other words, we have not yet seen a widespread reshuffling of cross-sectoral employment trends outside of the recession. For example, employment changes in the education and health care sector led the pack before the recession, and that sector has led the pack thus far in the recovery. At the opposite end of the scale, job growth in the information sector has remained on a negative trend in the recovery period, just as it was prior to the recession.
- I want to note a few exceptions to the preceding observation, which discusses the sectors with relatively high employment changes before the recession being the same ones that exhibited relatively high changes during the recovery. As noted, employment in the construction sector is well off its prerecession pace. What may be less appreciated is the fact that manufacturing employment, outside of the motor vehicles and auto parts sector, has experienced monthly employment gains that are better than the prerecession rate. Employment in the government sector, on the other hand, has noticeably flipped from positive to negative. This shift is also true of job growth in the financial activities sector, though the change is less dramatic than in the government sector.
Manufacturing and government represent relatively big shares of employment. Including motor vehicles and parts, manufacturing payroll employment was over 11 percent of total U.S. jobs for the period from 2002 through 2007. Government employment was about 16.5 percent (and had the largest single share of sectoral employment in the breakdown used in the chart above). The bad news in the big picture is that the better performance in manufacturing job creation is really a shift from negative job creation in the prerecession period to zero job creation in the postrecession period. And as for government employment, it seems unlikely that the forces will soon align to move job growth in the public sector back into positive territory. (The same could probably be said of financial activities employment.)
I am not pushing any particular interpretation of these facts, but a couple of questions come to mind. Will non-auto manufacturing employment revert to the contracting trend in place prior to the recession? Will employment in the financial activities and government sectors continue to shrink? If so, will these jobs be absorbed by increased employment in other sectors, and how long will that take?
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
September 8, 2011 in Data Releases, Employment, Forecasts, Labor Markets | Permalink
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Dave: Can you create a similar graph that measures not number of employed but % of income going to each of those sectors?
Posted by:
bryan byrne |
September 10, 2011 at 08:30 AM
It's not that hard to figure this out. In 1928, the average workweek was 48 hours. In 1935, the average workweek was 40 hours.
Work is finite and shrinks over time in a productive economy. The 40-hour workweek was the coarse-grained tool to enforce an equality between production and consumption, and government employment has been the fine-grained tool to keep it balanced since 1929.
The only true fix for current situation is to reset the coarse-grained tool to 36 or 32-hour week, which will reset the fine-grained tool.
Posted by:
Broward Horne |
September 10, 2011 at 01:07 PM
I hope you guys are paying attention:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5rxDm-_8-0I/TnmNJYKW4wI/AAAAAAAAAA8/zhetiAWZL9s/s1600/SPXvsTIPSBetas.bmp
The SPX - TIPS spread beta is a credible tool for resisting calls for more inflation in scenarios that Volker imagines, and for resisting inflation hawks in scenarios like... right now. The policy rule suggested is: Hold the beta near zero. Unlike inflation targeting, the beta has no sharp thresholds - you can under or overshoot slightly without killing people.
I'm putting this here both because it's your most recent post, and because it's a post about structural nonsense. Current economic conditions would require completely fantastic frictions to explain structurally. So people talk in vague ways about employee education, or an overburden of housing inventory. If houses are so plentiful, why does everyone I know rent or live with their parents? It's completely ridiculous. Then you have (as far as I understand it) a sterilized intervention like Twist. Newsflash: sterilized interventions can't do anything at the zero bound. Only inflation can.
Posted by:
Carl Lumma |
September 26, 2011 at 01:59 PM
August 01, 2011
Is the economy hitting stall speed?
The news that the U.S. economy is not only growing slowly but has grown more slowly than anyone even knew has justifiably rattled some nerves. The sentiment is captured well enough by this article from Bloomberg:
"The world's largest economy has yet to regain the ground it lost during the recession and may be vulnerable to a relapse.
"Gross domestic product [GDP] expanded at a 1.3 percent annual rate in the second quarter, after a 0.4 percent pace in the prior period, the worst six months since the recovery began in June 2009, Commerce Department figures showed yesterday. Economists said the slowdown leaves the recovery susceptible to being knocked off course by shocks at home or abroad."
At Reuters, James Pethokoukis makes those concerns quantitative:
"...we're in the danger zone for another recession. Research from the Federal Reserve finds that that since 1947, when two-quarter annualized real GDP growth falls below 2 percent, recession follows within a year 48 percent of the time. (And when year-over-year real GDP growth falls below 2 percent, recession follows within a year 70 percent of the time.")
The research being referred to is work done by the Federal Reserve Board's Jeremy Nalewaik, a careful researcher who is clear that the results should be read with, well, care.
"The dynamics at play in the early part of the 1990s and 2000s expansions may have been different than the dynamics at play in the more-mature part of those and other expansions, and our stall speed models may have omitted an additional phase of the business cycle that has appeared in recent decades, namely the sluggish, jobless recovery phase. If so, the applicability of these stall speed models may be somewhat limited at certain times, such as in the middle of 2010 when the economy evidently slowed while still in the early stages of recovery from the 2007-9 recession."
With caveats like that in mind, Dennis Lockhart, the president of the Atlanta Fed, counseled patience in a speech he delivered on Friday:
"My staff and I have recently been pondering the following questions: Are we experiencing a temporary slowdown—a soft patch—on a recovery path that should return to a rate of 3 to 4 percent GDP growth? Or, instead, are we dealing with an inherently slower pace of economic growth that, because of some combination of persistent economic headwinds and deeper structural adjustment requirements, has the potential to be of much longer duration and more intractable?"
Lockhart said his base case forecast is in line with the greater-strength view.
"I am expecting greater strength in the second half of 2011 and into 2012, accompanied by inflation numbers that converge to around 2 percent. But, as I said, I don't dismiss the possibility that we're in the alternative, more problematic world I described of low and slow growth improving only very gradually. At this juncture, I think we have to wait and see what the incoming data indicate...
"But to try to put some time limit on indecision, I think a continuing flow of weak numbers through the third quarter and into the fourth will call for a serious reconsideration of the situation. The weight of cumulative data could point to a different order of problem—that is, different than just a passing slowdown—if indicators show continued weakness much past year's end."
Of course, Nalewaik's research shows that things could become considerably less comfortable if the 2 percent threshold persists, or the yield curve flattens, or the housing market tanks again. At that point, history is on the side of the recessionists. While Lockhart and our Reserve Bank don't believe we're there yet, it's fair to say we'd feel more comfortable if the incoming third quarter data were a little more positive. And on that count, this morning's Institute for Supply Management report for manufacturing isn't a very promising first step.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director, and
Mike Bryan, vice president and senior economist, both of the Atlanta Fed
August 1, 2011 in Business Cycles, Data Releases, Economic Growth and Development, Employment | Permalink
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I think a problem with the US economy these days is the amount of debt and leverage involved in all markets. Even if you're not highly leveraged yourself, you can bet most of the other market participants will be, and that makes for an unstable investment (through no fault of your own) when the global economy has another dip and all asset classes get the jitters.
My biggest fear as an investor right now would be China. A drop in Chinese asset values would not only shake confidence in China's economic vitality, but it would also open debate about whether or not the global economy is over-leveraged and over-reliant on the success of China (it is).
Excessive leverage is partly what made the property bubble aftermath so devastating for Japan, America and Ireland. There's a lot of talk about the Chinese economic bubble and it's potential impact on the global economy. Several months ago, so-called Chinese 'expert' Nick Lardy dismissed worries about what he called the "so-called property bubble" - this was during a conference held at Peterson Institute in DC. However, he now concedes that says a real estate downturn may cause a significant in China, and this is an opinion shared by many other mainstream economic analysts.......
So what changed his opinion? I would suggest a dawning realisation that most of the massive Chinese stimulus, lending and spending during 2009/10 just ended up in property purchases, which drove real estate prices in an alarming and totally unsustainable manner. Also, a realisation that China's economic system frequently produces bubbles, and that's not very likely to change in the near future!!
To understand why excessive debt and leverage is going to have a hugely negative impact on all asset classes going forward, read up on some of the work by Professor Steve Keen (see http://australianpropertyforum.com/blog/main/3567572 ). He's the Australian guy who predicted the GFC, and he has also shown that unsustainable debt to GDP ratios in a country (which you definitely have in the USA, and we have in Australia too) will always result in deflation or depression.
Charles B.
Posted by:
Charles Bandridge |
August 02, 2011 at 08:26 PM
Hi Dave & Mike, I pop in occasionally but haven't felt the need to kibitz, but I'm lost over what the FED has left in its bag. But first, the working world, at least those in the private sector are way beyond needing to know why "excessive debt & leverage is going to have a hugely negative impact on them". They've been living it for five years, since their spiggots were closed.
My question is, has the FED been largely rendered helpless to turn the mess around that it was so much involved in creating? I'll be the first to admit, I don't know a lot (although I spent many months barking warnings of the impending mortgage implosion), but my guesses are: a QE3 will be toothless & the housing bear market has years to go. So, what's left to encourage Banks to lend & buyers to borrow?
Posted by:
bailey |
August 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Let me toss out what the FED can do to encourage Banks to lend - make it more costly for them NOT to lend. Unfortunately, that raises a better question - if the FED works for the Banks, is it really in its best interest to act to constrain Banks profit?
So, maybe the question is best left to Congress? Oops, isn't that what got us here.
Posted by:
bailey |
August 14, 2011 at 08:42 AM
Understanding that when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, I still find it mystifying how monetary policy can be expected to alter business fundamentals by anyone with an ounce of sense, except in illusory ways such as via inflation.
I've never seen an answer to the question whether the US economy can grow at what is considered "reasonable" rates without the aid of a housing bubble, an internet bubble, a finance bubble, or some new kind of bubble, when US wages are being driven down by globalization and costs of production are being driven up by global growth in oil consumption. Unless we can accelerate conversion to natural gas and ultimately renewable energy, this contraction seems likely to last for a long time.
Posted by:
George McKee |
August 14, 2011 at 07:21 PM
March 04, 2011
Gaining perspective on the employment picture
The employment report released today indicated a moderate increase of 192,000 in nonfarm payrolls and a slight decline in the unemployment rate from 9 percent in January to 8.9 percent. While certainly an improvement over recent months, employment growth still has not reached a level needed to produce significant drops in the unemployment rate.
In a speech given yesterday, Atlanta Fed President Dennis Lockhart addressed some of the underlying issues that have potentially been holding back job growth. On the supply side, President Lockhart addressed three structural issues, including skill mismatch, house lock, and extended unemployment insurance.
"Skill mismatch exists when work skills of job seekers do not match the requirements of jobs that are available. For example, a construction worker is unlikely to have the particular skills needed in the healthcare industry."
This comment is motivated by the research of Federal Reserve economists (Valetta and Kuang and Barnichon and Figura, among others) that suggests while there is likely some evidence of skill mismatch, it's not materially different than what's been seen during past recessions.
Another possible explanation mentioned by President Lockhart for persistently high unemployment is the existence of what is sometimes referred to as "house lock."
"Currently many people owe more on their homes than their homes are worth. It's claimed that job seekers don't accept jobs available in other geographic locations because of the difficulty or cost of selling their homes."
Here too, President Lockhart says there is evidence indicating house lock is not a large contributor to the current high level of unemployment (For example, see Schulhofer-Wohl, Kaplan and Schulhofer-Wohl, and Molloy et al.)
More convincing is the argument pointing to the impact of extended unemployment insurance benefits. Research from the most recent recession and recovery—for example, see Valetta and Kuang and Aaronson et al.—suggests extended benefits have added to the unemployment rates, with estimates ranging from 0.4 percentage points to 1.7 percentage points. If that's the case, then President Lockhart says these extended benefits may be acting "as a disincentive to accept an offered job, especially if the job pays less than the one lost."
As President Lockhart indicates, however, standard skill mismatch, house lock, and unemployment insurance disincentives do not provide the full answer. So, he offers some additional factors:
"On the demand side, it's been argued that credit constraints affecting small businesses are holding back hiring. Banks are blamed for this situation and so are regulators. Getting credit at an affordable cost was a challenge during the recession. But credit conditions for established small businesses have been steadily improving for some time now. Recent surveys suggest that most small businesses are cautious about hiring more because of slow sales growth rather than lack of access to credit.
"Furthermore, a recent National Bureau of Economic Research study showed that job creation is more correlated to young businesses than the broad class of small businesses. Start-ups and young businesses are often financed in ways other than direct business loans. Difficulties getting home equity loans and other personal credit appear to have reduced formation of new businesses.
"Strong productivity growth is another much-discussed potential impediment to hiring. Stated simply, increases in productivity allow businesses to support a given level of sales with fewer people. In the longer term, rising productivity expands the economy's output, which in turn generates jobs. But in the short run, productivity investment can be the enemy of employment growth.
"Productivity growth was unusually high during the recession and in the early stages of the recovery, limiting the need for additional workers. Recently, however, productivity growth has slowed below the pace of business sales. If this trend continues, the need to hire additional workers will increase.
"Finally, in recent months, reluctance to hire has been attributed to heightened uncertainty, a common theme among my business contacts. A few weeks ago I argued that uncertainty has abated somewhat with the improving economy, the resolution of the November elections, the extension of tax cuts, and the apparent containment of the European sovereign debt crisis. I said that before Tunisia and before the fiscal struggle in Congress gathered steam. The restraining influence of uncertainty persists, to some extent."
Outside of productivity, it is difficult to measure the impact of these issues. (For example, it is difficult to survey people who did not start up a firm to determine if credit was an issue.) However, the theme of uncertainty has been a consistent factor in discussions on employment with our contacts here at the Atlanta Fed. If a simple explanation for persistent weakness in labor markets has proven elusive, there is little argument with President Lockhart's observation that "the recovery has brought little relief to the labor market."
Should today's employment release change any opinions about the strength of the labor market? In my mind, not really. There are still 7.5 million fewer jobs than at the start of the recession. There are also still over 8 million workers employed part time for economic reasons, and almost 6 million of the unemployed have been so for more than 26 weeks.
But the numbers released today did provide some additional evidence that the labor market is moving in the right direction with a level of growth consistent with at least a modest decline in unemployment. Furthermore, as consumer expenditures continue to rise, profitability increases, and the amount of uncertainty diminishes, hiring should increase. However, as President Lockhart alluded to in his speech, it will likely take time before the labor market recovery catches up to the overall economic recovery.
By Melinda Pitts
Research economist and associate policy adviser at the Atlanta Fed
March 4, 2011 in Data Releases, Employment, Labor Markets, Productivity | Permalink
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"Furthermore, a recent National Bureau of Economic Research study showed that job creation is more correlated to young businesses than the broad class of small businesses."
Correlation and causation? I wouldn't be surprised if the phase of the business cycle is an omitted variable, as that is correlated with young businesses launching, and thus hiring...
Can't find the paper though, so I'm not sure whether the authors did due diligence.
-fischer
Posted by:
fischer |
March 04, 2011 at 08:58 PM
Of course outsourcing has nothing, nothing to do with the lack of jobs. Move right along folks, nothing to see there. The trade deficit - American demand satisfied by overseas production - is not even worth mentioning.
And of course people are staying unemployed because ... of unemployment insurance. Sure! The fact that there are 5 bodies for every opening? Move right along folks, nothing to see there.
You researchers should really get out more.
Posted by:
lark |
March 04, 2011 at 11:34 PM
sounds like from your inference and analysis we ought to end the length of jobless benefits.
But what are we doing to engender growth? I don't see tax policy or any other things out there changing.
It's going to be a slow crawl out.
Posted by:
Jeff Carter |
March 06, 2011 at 09:37 AM
Productivity is exploding, just like it did after Bill Gates gave us Windows. But, there are more complicated structures in place which could mean the benefits are kept only by a select few.
The hard truth is many people's lives are better in unemployment than pawns in the game of professional management at the local corporation.
Posted by:
FormerSandySpringsResident |
March 06, 2011 at 11:42 PM
Hello,
I'm wondering, with all this talk of unemployment, which "rate" do fed officials "actually" focus on. Given workforce changes, underemployed, etc., it seems silly to discuss one surface level number, and not the details. Please expand when convenient.
Thank you.
Posted by:
Friend |
March 07, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I really don't buy the UE benefits are causing unemployment line. While there is a bit of state by state variation, generally speaking UE benefits replace about 60% of pre-unemployment earnings, up to a maximum benefit of $400 a week. The average benefit is more like $300 per week. Just how many people with previous productive lives are going to want to sit around and see their long term employment prospects deteriorate sharply so they can get an average of $15,600 per year, with very little security attached to that after 26 weeks? Do the authors of such studies have any clue what it would be like to try to raise a family on $15.6K per year? Don't they realize that according to the most recent JOLTS data, there are 4.7 unemployed for each job opening?
Not much reason to suspect that skills mismatch has increased greatly in the last few years. Housing lock is likely a much more serious problem than Lockhart thinks. Still, the vast majority of the higher UE is due to cyclical factors and the massive incompetence of those running the biggest banks and financial institutions.
Posted by:
Dirk van Dijk |
March 07, 2011 at 02:52 PM
SHAME on you.
The dip in unemployment has 2% more to do with workers leaving the work force then it does with us turning the corner.
If you examine the following numbers:
Total people employed
Total people looking for work
Total people not looking for work
You see that the change was not from the second group to the first, but from the first group to the third. Discouraged workers is not a good sign.
Posted by:
Mark Wusinich |
March 09, 2011 at 11:40 AM
If people are not working because of insurance benefits, imagine how many people are working because of the insurance benefits. How does this play into the healthcare debate?
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Philip |
March 11, 2011 at 09:45 AM
July 16, 2010
A curious unemployment picture gets more curious
UPDATE: One of our eagle-eyed macroblog readers thought something was fishy-looking in the second chart of yesterday's (July 15) post. He was right—the chart was in error. This post is an updated, edited version with the erroneous chart replaced. There have also been some text revisions to better reflect the revised chart. The new text is bolded in this post.
At first blush, the second quarter statistics from the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey (commonly referred to as JOLTS and released Tuesday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics) suggest little has changed recently in U.S. labor markets:
"There were 3.2 million job openings on the last business day of May 2010, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The job openings rate was little changed over the month at 2.4 percent. The hires rate (3.4 percent) was little changed and the separations rate (3.1 percent) was unchanged."
Despite a slight step backward in May, the overall trend in job openings has been positive—Calculated Risk has the picture—but in a sense this fact has just deepened the puzzle of why the unemployment rate is so darn high. As we wrote in the first quarter issue of the Atlanta Fed's EconSouth:
"The disconnect between the supply of and demand for workers that is reflected in statistics such as the unemployment rate, the hiring rate, and the layoff rate can be dynamically expressed by the Beveridge curve. Named after British economist William Beveridge, the curve is a graphical representation of the relationship between unemployment (from the BLS's household survey) and job vacancies, reflected here through the JOLTS."
Since the second quarter of last year, the unemployment rate has far exceeded the level that would be predicted by the average correlation between unemployment and job vacancies over the past decade. Tuesday's report indicates that the anomaly only deepened in the first two months of the second quarter.
The dashed line in the chart above, which is estimated from the data from 2000–08, represents the predicted relationship between the number of unemployed persons in the United States and the number of job openings. That simple relationship would suggest that, given the average number of job openings in April and May, the unemployed would be expected to number about 10.4 million—not the nearly 15 million we actually saw.
Some analysts have suggested the unemployment benefits policies of the last couple of years may be responsible for abnormally high unemployment rates. Estimates generated by several researchers in the Federal Reserve—here and here, for example—suggest that extended unemployment benefits may have increased the unemployment rate by somewhere between 0.4 and 1.7 percentage points. But even if we accept those numbers and adjust the Beveridge curve by assuming that the number of unemployed would be correspondingly lower without the benefits policy, it's not clear that the puzzle is resolved:
If you tend to believe the higher end of the benefits-bias estimates, no puzzle emerges until the second quarter of 2010. And, of course, some estimates apparently deliver an even larger impact of the extended benefits policy. Let's call the question unsettled at this point.
The most tempting explanation for the seeming shift in the Beveridge curve relationship (to me, anyway) is a problem with the mismatch between skills required in the jobs that are available and skills possessed by the pool of workers available to take those jobs. The problem with this tempting explanation is that it is not so clear that the usual sort of structural shifts we might point to—for example, only nursing jobs being available to laid-off construction workers—are so obviously an explanation (an issue we explored in a previous macroblog post).
But these sorts of subplots may miss the truly big part of the story. I have noticed a recent spate of articles repeating a theme we hear anecdotally from many sources, in many industries. For example, this from a June USA Today article…
"…the [auto] industry is poised to add up to 15,000 this year and could need up to 100,000 new workers a year from 2011 through 2013.
"…Automakers need workers with more and different skills than in the past on the factory floor.… Among priorities: computer skills and the ability to work with less supervision than their predecessors. That likely means education beyond high school."
… or more recently, this one from the New York Times:
"Factory owners have been adding jobs slowly but steadily since the beginning of the year, giving a lift to the fragile economic recovery…
"Yet some of these employers complain that they cannot fill their openings.
"Plenty of people are applying for the jobs. The problem, the companies say, is a mismatch between the kind of skilled workers needed and the ranks of the unemployed."
Now I realize that a few anecdotes don't make facts, but I have been in more than a few conversations with businesspeople who have claimed that the productivity gains realized in the United States throughout the recession and early recovery reflect upgrades in business processes—bundled with a necessary upgrade in the skill set of the workers who will implement those processes. This dynamic suggests that the shift in required skills has been concentrated within individual industries and businesses, not across sectors or geographic areas that would be captured by our most straightforward measures of structural change.
The data necessary to test this proposition are not easy to come by. That challenge is unfortunate, because the return on figuring out what is beneath those Beveridge curve graphs is very high.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
July 16, 2010 in Data Releases, Employment, Labor Markets, Productivity | Permalink
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Could you describe a bit how you created the second figure? Here's how I would have thought the chart would be constructed. If the unemployment is currently about 10%, and is overstated by 2.5 percentage points, then the number of unemployed workers should actually be lower by 1/4. It looks like there are currently 15000 unemployed, so the number for 2010q2 should fall to 11,250, in which case it would be on the beveridge curve. Is it possible that you cut the number of unemployed by 2.5 percent, instead of the 2.5 percentage points, or am I just misunderstanding?
Posted by:
Ian Dew-Becker |
July 16, 2010 at 08:52 AM
1. Manufacturing employment has been falling since at least 2000 (http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=CES3000000001&data_tool=XGtable ). Compared to that lose of 6 million workers, hiring another 100,000 over 3 years is a tiny number; it seems unlikely that the auto industry really can't find enough qualified people in that pool. Worst case, if none of the skilled workers are unemployed, they'd have to pay a bit more to get people to switch from existing jobs (which could then perhaps be filled by the unemployed).
2. Alternatively, if the mismatch in skills covers a sufficiently large set of workers, and companies are that desperate to hire people, one would presume that they would invest in training. From the companies' point of view this would be equivalent to a higher compensation expense, except that some of the money would end up enhancing worker skills instead of going into their pockets.
So, either companies are irrationally unwilling to pay enough to get the workers they need, or they feel there is not enough demand for their products for them to be able to pay more for workers. I'd take a little from column A, a lot from column B.
Posted by:
Itamar Turner-Trauring |
July 16, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Maybe a better explanation is that the JOLTS will never go to zero (unless an asteroid hits) :). The numbers of unemployed is a function of the number of hires, but also a function of the number of terminations. During much of 2009, the economy was shedding a lot of jobs from some sectors but not others. The JOLTS was reflecting the recession proof areas of the economy ONLY in 2009 and could not go lower because companies that are shedding jobs cannot have negative hires. Job loss has not returned to its pre-recession level of 300-350K per week and is at a much higher range of 420-460 per week. If one is looking for a shift in the Beveridge curve, then a higher rate of job loss will require a higher rate of new hires to arrive at a level of employment- a shift in the curve. A shift in the rate of job turnover will shift the Beveridge curve.
It has been noted that the Beveridge curve has been subject to shifts in the past and the cause is debated. (See Dickens:
http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2009/07_unemployment_dickens.aspx
and references therein. Dickens has a nice figure showing previous shifts in the curve.
Also note in using the JOLTS data, the correlation is more linear if the JOLTS and unemployment numbers are offset by 1 quarter. (JOLTS is a leading indicator of unemployment). That is, unemployment number more closely tracks the JOLTS of the previous quarter than the current quarter. The linear relationship obviously breaks down at higher levels of unemployment. JOLTS will asymptote at a non-zero level. A better fit occurs if the JOLTS is plotted against the log of the unemployment number. The need for an explanation of the departure from the linear relationship may have nothing to do with a shift in the curve. It is likely that unemployment in this recession is so high that we have dropped below the linear portion of the Beveridge curve and onto the tail.
Posted by:
jonny bakho |
July 16, 2010 at 10:24 PM
I agree that there has to be a (Kurzweil) acceleration in the changes in technology that are affecting employment.
But, could the really big story be that employers still prefer China?
800K employees, 62Bln in revenues at Foxconn makes one wonder.
Posted by:
Joe Rotger |
July 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM
This anomaly might just come under the heading of Beveridge curve dynamics. (I wouldn't want to declare a shift in the curve based on just one observation.) Presumably it takes time to fill vacancies. (Even in a weak economy, it takes time, because employers have more applicants to process.) So an exogenous increase in vacancies should only gradually be reflected in the unemployment rate.
The size of the jump is pretty striking, though, and it's consistent with what I've seen in other indicators (e.g., the Monster Employment Index rising 21% over 12 months). Assuming this represents a real Beveridge curve shift, it would seem to be a reversal of the trend of the past 25 years, where the Beveridge curve (as best we can tell from available data) has been shifting inward. It might mean an increase in the NAIRU (which under the circumstances may be good news, given the below-target inflation rate and the constraints on macro policy).
I've been studying the Beveridge curve off and on for the past 20 years, and I still haven't found or heard any really convincing explanations for the past shifts. But they do seem to correlate with shifts in the Phillips curve.
Posted by:
Andy Harless |
July 17, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Wondering if expectations of the future have anything to do with it?
Next year, we get a massive tax increase. I can't help but think that business is figuring in a slow down in activity. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm
This chart shows hours worked is up slightly. Instead of new hires, which are expensive, it's cheaper to pay a little overtime.
I think that unemployment will be over 10% by December.
Posted by:
Jeff |
July 18, 2010 at 10:03 AM
fifteen million unemployed, hmm, must have graduated from the enron school of economics if u beleve that.the only reason employers can't match skills is simply because they expect u to know it all, walk on water and work like you've been there twenty five years. guess what, never happen.
Posted by:
gangsta |
July 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM
Not mentioned above, but frequently included in discussions of this sort, is the issue of labor mobility.
Given the state of the housing market, many skilled laborers with homes ... and underwater mortgages ... may be unwilling to relocate to where the jobs are.
Also, dual-income families may be either more abundant than formerly, or less inclined to move for one spouse's job than they were in the past. Given the uncertainty in the economy, it may be that unless both breadwinners can relocate and find jobs, families with one stable income may find it more difficult to uproot themselves and hope for a better life elsewhere.
Posted by:
Wisdom Seeker |
July 19, 2010 at 01:21 PM
Two other comments:
(1) The unemployment rate is clearly pocketed based on age and skill sets. But perhaps, instead of "needing" more skilled workers (what a B.S. waste of language), businesses ought to be thinking about how to make better use of the available workers?
(2) Employers also appear to be unwilling to take chances on older workers, regardless of skill sets. Alternatively, the older unemployed are holding out for the best possible job offers. (Or maybe they are just the most rooted and unable to move?)
Calculated Risk had a nice guest post on this a week or two ago. The older unemployed have the longest durations of unemployment.
Posted by:
Wisdom Seeker |
July 19, 2010 at 01:22 PM
Yes, that is quite curious. It is hard to know to what extent the various factors are affecting unemployment.
Posted by:
Mark B. |
July 19, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Skills-employment match is one factor but IMO not the biggest one. It's the housing market and the new lack of labor mobility. The job openings are not (geographically) in the same place as the older jobs and it is very difficult/expensive to move when your house is underwater. I could give multiple anecdotes from friends. Even when you break-even after the house sale, you are left with little equity for a new house in a new location. Employers rarely cover the loss on the house, but do provide property management help to rent. But this only makes it less of a losing proposition (and renters are a HUGE pain in the A$$).
This could easily show up as a statistical bias against older workers, since younger ones without kids are more likely to rent. Renters are very mobile in this environment as there are lots of vacancies. People who are willing to brave an insufferable lifestyle of long commutes, or willing to rent to lawsuit-happy Angie who is allergic to everything, or party-hearty house-trashing Steve and his college buddies, will find jobs. But otherwise, the era of job mobility is dead until the housing market recovers.
Posted by:
dwb |
July 21, 2010 at 08:41 AM
Its clear from the anecdotes that folks are looking for people who can learn on their own not sitting in training courses.
Consider the ag sector, running a farm today takes a 4 year degree to really make a go of it, you need to understand finance, as well as agronomy and ag economics. Today a person with 6 years of school could not make a go of it in ag as my grandfather did. Today one has gps based tractors that deliver fertilizer based on the yield of that part of the field. Which is a very advanced set of concepts to understand.
It is not clear that a HS education teaches one how to learn. Note also the ability to work with less supervision as an issue. Perhaps then more term papers and projects in school, and less super tests.
Posted by:
Lyle |
July 24, 2010 at 05:14 PM
I'm wondering something, I'd like to get your comments.
Perhaps I'm paranoid here - but perhaps the reason the model no longer holds is because there are so few companies due to mergers and acquisitions that a decision by a relatively small handful of leaders of huge corporations creates an anomaly?
Like the guy who just bought up 7% of the world's cocoa supply, sending me out to buy my Hersheys forthwith?
Posted by:
Aquarian Analytic |
July 27, 2010 at 01:34 AM
I'd argue the sticky unemployment number is a result of American intellectual property regulation restraining economic activity.
Eliminate the last 40 years of intellectual property and copyright regulation and economic activity will increase at the level where most people are employed, small businesses.
There isn't a Fed policy that will increase economic activity when they're at ZIRP already.
Posted by:
Tigwelded |
July 27, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Let's be clear about one thing: there are 5 people seeking employment for every 1 job opening. So even if people were willing to take on lower paying jobs not utilizing their skills (e.g., when the laid-off astrophysicist ask you "do you want fries with that?") there are still 4 more people who literally cannot get jobs.
Unemployment benefits have nothing to do with the number of people out of work.
Posted by:
Tax Lawyer |
July 28, 2010 at 07:03 PM
I checked the data on hires from the JOLTS series. The job openings rate is back up to where it was in October 2008, but the hires rate is up to where it was in June 2008. That juxtaposition doesn't seem consistent with the story that firms are having trouble hiring because the unemployed don't have the skills they need. Rather, the failure of unemployment to respond to the increase in job openings would a appear to be due to (1) the persistence of a higher than usual rate of layoffs into the recovery, so that more than the usual rate of hiring is needed to raise employment and (2) the lack of sufficient time for unemployment to respond (i.e. the dynamics of the Beveridge curve).
(By my reading of this chart, the only anomalous observation is the one for Q2 2010. Both visual inspection and the knowledge that both series are absolutely bounded at zero lead me not to put much credence in the linear fit.)
Posted by:
Andy Harless |
July 31, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Just as in the last recession, my company is systematically targeting, and hiring, "overqualified" apllicants. They don't attrite at a higher rate, but have greater sucess/impact. I know we are not unique. So, could the knock-on effect of this behavior add to the skills mismatch? There is a stickiness, once hired, that takes them out of the market for a period of time.
Posted by:
Andrew |
August 03, 2010 at 12:45 AM
I looked at the data after reading this post (and Cowen's comments). It's clear that the relationship is non-linear, with the number of job openings associated with a given level of unemployment beginning to rise after the number of unemployed reaches about 12 million...controlling for levels of things, the increase in openings as a percentage of establishment employment begins to increase when unemployment as a percentage of establishment employment reaches about 10.5%.
The problem is determining what this means. And it's a problem because, in the available data series, we only have one observation of the relationship at this level of unemployment. So while this *could* represent the emergence of some structural unemployment at high levels of unemployment, it does not *have* to represent that.
But it's an issue that deserves a fair amount of attention that it is likely to get.
Posted by:
Donald A. Coffin |
August 03, 2010 at 11:58 AM
It simply takes time between posting a vacancy and employing a person. First you post more vacancies, then you get an increase in employment.
When a recession is small you can't identify deviations from a straight line from the measurement error.
When the recession is big, it's a bigger deviation.
In fact it has always been a counter-clockwise loop around the Beveridge curve. It's been around for decades, and not only in the US.
Why do people always make so much fuss out of long-known things without reading smth on the subject first?
Posted by:
chertosha |
August 06, 2010 at 11:57 PM
I seem to be ignorant. The beveridge curve indicates that unemployment is decreasing and job openings rising. Isn't that positive?
Posted by:
Outsider |
August 07, 2010 at 11:51 AM
How many unemployed citizens in States with few job prospects are underwater on their mortgages preventing them from moving to States with more job openings?
Posted by:
Ed Herranz |
August 09, 2010 at 06:29 PM
Can someone provide a reference for the 1.7 number quoted in the blog post? The two studies he links to give estimates of 0.4 and 0.7, not 1.7. Thanks.
Posted by:
James |
August 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM
I'm from Metro Detroit. I'm in property management. I do know several people who have been unemployed I would say for about 9 months. 2 with high school education and one with a college degree.
Posted by:
excel development |
September 22, 2010 at 03:24 AM
One possible explanation for a positive slope in the Beveridge curve is that when employers believe the unemployment rate will stay high for a long time, it changes the psychology of the hiring process. Instead of looking for more general competencies, employers who see the job market as an extreme "buyer's market" begin to look for more specific knowledge. During "normal" times, employers assume that some on-the-job learning is necessary. Because their expectations are raised in the current market, they're more likely to hold out for the "perfect" candidate who's intimately familiar with all of the specific systems the company currently uses.
Posted by:
Jonathan |
October 19, 2010 at 02:35 AM
It's true, there are a hell of a lot more unemployed than the government can count because of the reasons you've cited; and other reasons as well. I think if we knew the true numbers we would claim a depression and that would send the markets into a tailspin, the government would quickly follow. I believe the numbers are fudged and have been since the 1930s.
Posted by:
excel development |
October 28, 2010 at 06:52 AM
What is the relationship between the cyclical unemployment rate and the natural rate of unemployment?
Posted by:
excel classes |
December 04, 2010 at 04:39 AM
If your claim has not expired and you still have money left to use, then you would just reopen the claim. Your last employer is what will be used to determine your eligibility. The weekly benefit amount will stay the same as it was, once you open a claim you are locked into that amount for the life of the claim (no matter if you work a temp job and earn more money).
Posted by:
excel classes |
August 08, 2011 at 05:00 AM
fifteen million unemployed, hmm, must have graduated from the enron school of economics if u beleve that.the only reason employers can't match skills is simply because they expect u to know it all, walk on water and work like you've been there twenty five years. guess what, never happen.
Posted by:
العاب |
August 03, 2012 at 12:20 AM
June 18, 2010
Another look at consumer sentiment and consumer spending
In the most recent economic forecasting survey by the Wall Street Journal, 23 percent of the surveyed economists said consumers spending more readily than anticipated is the biggest upside risk of their growth forecast for the second half of the year. So anything that can shed light on future spending habits is of particular interest. Two of the most commonly cited measures of consumer attitudes are the Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Index and the Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan's Index of Consumer Sentiment. A key question is, do these indicators improve consumption forecasts?
Previously, economic researchers have looked at the predictive power of these indexes for consumer spending, and they generally found that the ability of consumer confidence measures to predict consumer spending largely disappeared once some other measures of economic conditions were taken into account. One such example is a study by Sydney Ludvigson, which examined the forecasting record of these confidence measures through 2002 (for other examples, see here and here). Much has happened since then, of course, and a simple inspection of the two series reveals that both confidence measures fell fairly steadily starting in August 2007 until reaching near-record lows by June 2008. Therefore, a look at the more recent predictive track record of these indicators seems warranted.
For this examination, we conducted an out-of-sample forecasting experiment using a pair of statistical models (technically, Bayesian vector autoregression models). The first model predicts real personal consumption expenditures as a function of its own past values and past values of other variables such as real measures of stock market prices and disposable personal income. The second model includes all of these variables augmented by the two measures of consumer attitudes. At each point in time we use only the data that would have been available to forecast real consumption data anywhere from one to 12 months out. (For example, in the middle of February 2009, consumption data would have been available through December 2008 while some of the other variables would have been available through January or February 2009. The experiment is not "real time" in the sense that we use the latest vintage of data, which include revisions to the historical data that would not have been available to forecasters at the time.) Forecasts of consumption are made for the 1990–2003 period and then again for the period from 2004 to the present. The root mean squared forecast error is used to gauge the accuracy of the forecasts, with smaller numbers corresponding to smaller misses on average. As the accompanying chart shows, adding the two measures of consumer attitudes improves the forecast much more in the post-2003 sample than in the earlier period.
We experimented with some variations in specifications of the model, and we were unable to overturn the general finding that adding attitude measures to the model resulted in an improvement in forecasts in recent years. We found this fact intriguing and somewhat surprising.
A recent paper by Barsky and Solon argues that the Index of Consumer Sentiment reflects the public's awareness of economic conditions. In fact, the survey used to construct this index asks respondents about recent news they have heard related to changes in economic conditions. From August 2007 to June 2008, news of "unfavorable higher prices" was frequently mentioned in the survey. A study by James Hamilton showed that part of the deterioration in the Index of Consumer Sentiment during this period could be explained by rising energy prices. However, adding a measure of oil prices to our model did not overturn the basic finding of improved consumption spending forecasts in models that included measures of consumer attitudes.
It remains an open question why these measures of consumer attitudes have become more useful in recent years. A statistical anomaly, greater or more accessible news coverage of the economy, and a generally more aware public are all possibilities. If it is just luck, then time will eventually overturn the result. But if these consumer attitude indicators have become a more useful summary of a wide variety of developments in the economy, then their forecasting power will persist. Time and further research will help sort this out.
By Patrick Higgins, an economist at the Atlanta Fed
June 18, 2010 in Data Releases, Forecasts | Permalink
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Very interesting quantitative analysis here. It would be interesting to see an attempt to quantify media news and the impact it has on consumer confidence. Probably wouldn't be much help in forecasting, though.
Posted by:
Robert F. |
June 23, 2010 at 10:50 AM
I don't understand this graph. Why does forecast error decrease with horizon? Shouldn't it be easier to predict the immediate future?
Also, can you give an impression about number of data points v. number of parameters?
Posted by:
Doug |
June 28, 2010 at 05:47 PM
consumer sentiment will always drop out once employment and income enter the equation -- this was true 30 years ago and it still is today. where current econ environment can lead a spending equation astray is if the household balance sheet, net worth / dpi, is left out. reason why income growth in current cycle will bring about more saving than strict income/employment equation would suggest. perhaps here is where some part of the sentiment survey can work as a proxy for wealth.
Posted by:
steve |
June 30, 2010 at 09:32 AM
Patrick Higgins responds: The forecasting experiment for this blog post uses monthly data starting in 1968 and ending anywhere from 1989 to 2009, depending on when the forecast is made. A particular forecast would include anywhere from about 250 observations to about 500 observations. The basic model includes 13 lags of eight variables plus a constant term for each variable, implying it has a total of 112 parameters. The model that includes the two measures of consumer confidence has 140 parameters. The forecasts are out-of-sample (i.e., they don't use future data the forecaster wouldn't have at the time), so the larger model does not necessarily have an a priori advantage over the basic model.
The accuracy of the forecasts are gauged using errors in predicting annualized growth rates--measured by logarithmic changes--in consumption anywhere from one month to 12 months in the future. As can be seen in the graph below when growth rates are annualized, the one-month growth rate in consumption is quite noisy, while the one-year growth rate is fairly smooth, and the 10-year growth rate is smoother still. This activity is essentially a particular case of the law of averages.
Therefore, one might expect that annualized growth rates become easier to forecast the further out in the future one goes. This case turns out to be one of using the simplest forecasting models of consumption growth--the so-called "naive model," which projects that annualized consumption growth in the future will be equal to its historical average (since 1968, in this case)--and is pictured in the graph below.
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July 02, 2010 at 12:53 PM
May 20, 2010
Sticky-price CPI up slightly in April... Wait, what?
No matter how you cut the April report on consumer prices, retail inflation keeps coming up zero. Here are the key points:
- The consumer price index (CPI) fell a tiny bit in April but has remained essentially unchanged since January.
- The core CPI (excluding food and energy) hasn't posted a significant increase dating back to last October, and its 0.9 percent rise from a year ago is its smallest 12-month increase since 1966.
- The Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland's median CPI continued a trend of essentially no change since October and is up a mere 0.5 percent from a year ago—a new year-over-year low for the series.
Oh, and the sticky-price CPI was up only 1.25 percent (annualized) in April. Maybe we ought to explain this last one a little more.
When you look at the headline CPI, what you're really looking at is a constellation of price movements that are a mixture of various forces. For example, there are changes in market conditions that are specific to particular goods—dairy prices fell sharply in April, presumably in response to an unanticipated jump in milk production. Stripping away these idiosyncratic price movements is, in large part, what the core inflation measures, including the Cleveland Fed's median CPI, are designed to do.
But economists tend to think of two general forces that drive all prices: (1) the amount of "slack" in the economy influencing the pricing power of firms and workers and (2) inflation expectations, which affect forward-looking price and wage decisions.
Of course, these two forces are unlikely to affect all prices in the exactly same way. Economists have long accepted the idea that some prices are "sticky," meaning they may not be particularly sensitive to changing market conditions, including economic slack. But if these sticky prices are, in fact, insulated from the ups and downs of the marketplace, might they be more forward looking?
In recent work, we used data on the price flexibility of specific goods to separate the CPI into two components: a flexible-price CPI and a sticky-price CPI. What we found was that flexible-price goods represent roughly 30 percent of the CPI market basket, and these goods tend to respond to the state of the economy. However, the sticky-price goods that make up the remaining 70 percent of the CPI market basket don't appear to respond to economic conditions. Consider the figure below, which shows the correspondence between the flexible-price CPI and the sticky-price CPI to the amount of slack in U.S. labor markets—the so-called Phillips curve relationship.
But what the sticky-price CPI lacks in responsiveness to the economy, it seems to make up in terms of its ability to capture inflation expectations. In other words, the sticky-price CPI seems to be more forward looking.
What does all this have to do with the April CPI report? Well, not any more than you already know; this most recent CPI report doesn't have a hint of inflation in it. The flexible-price portion of the CPI that seems most responsive to the state of the economy fell last month, as it has, on average, during the past three months (–0.7 percent on a core basis.) And the sticky-price part of the CPI that seems to be most forward looking is only limping ahead, up 1.25 percent in April, and is less than 1 percent on a year-over-year basis.
By the way, if you want access to these data back to 1967, we've made them available to you on the Atlanta Fed's Inflation Project.
By Mike Bryan, vice president and senior economist at the Atlanta Fed, and Brent Meyer, senior economic analyst at the Cleveland Fed
May 20, 2010 in Data Releases, Inflation | Permalink
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Has any work been done on leads and lags between the sticky and flexible measures or between any presumed inputs to inflation (wages, jobless rate, money or credit growth) and the various sticky and flexible measures? In other words, now that we have these measures, what can we learn from them? Has anybody driven them around the block yet?
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kharris |
May 21, 2010 at 07:46 AM
I guess that the calculation of the CPI doesn't factor in the widespread packaging changes which reduce unit volumes and amounts? So the current "stationary prices" are actually very misleading.
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flow5 |
May 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM
We are currently in deflation. Without employment growth, it will be hard to inflate. Although, we could see stagflation, high unemployment, and inflation.
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Jeff |
May 22, 2010 at 04:50 PM
It's 2010. When will Economists discuss inflation in terms that correlate to a population sampling?
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bailey |
June 02, 2010 at 11:20 PM
April 14, 2010
The inventory question
Mark Thoma asks a very good question:
"I hadn't looked at this for awhile—should I interpret the return of the inventory-sales ratio to near normal levels as good news?"
Here's the picture Thoma was looking at, updated to incorporate today's U.S. Census Bureau release on February manufacturing and trade inventory and sales:
Tim Duy has taken a look at these data and comes to this conclusion:
"Increasingly, the recovery looks sustainable—sustainable in the sense that a double dip recession looks unlikely. As Bloomberg reports, this is the message of the inventory cycle, which appears to have largely run its course. Inventories surged as the recession intensified, leaving firms scrambling to bring output in line with the new level of sales. Now, firms have inventories under control."
I have been pondering those data as well, ever since the advance fourth quarter gross domestic product report indicated that 3.4 percentage points of the then-reported 5.9 percent annualized growth rate was accounted for by a slowing in the pace of inventory decumulation. (The numbers have subsequently been revised to 3.8 percentage points of a 5.6 percent growth rate.) It certainly appears that inventory-sales ratios have reverted to the prerecession norm, justifying Duy's sense that inventories will not be a big part of the economic story as we move through 2010.
That conclusion does rest, of course, on the likelihood that a downward trend in the ratio truly did break in the middle part of the decade. As the chart shows, the same pause in the trend occurred in the mid-1990s, only to commence its southward trek on the other side of the 2001 recession.
But the situation is even more curious than that. If you dig a little deeper, you find that not all inventory-sales ratios tell the same story. In particular, inventory-to-sales ratios at the retail level look very lean relative to prerecession levels while manufacturer's inventories still appear to be relatively bloated.
What, exactly, is that chart trying to tell us? Does it represent some shift in supply-chain management, with inventory holdings being pushed down from the retail level to manufacturers? If not, can we expect some resurgence in retail inventories (as the Duy-cited Bloomberg article suggests), coupled with continued decumulation at the manufacturing level? And what would be the net effect of such developments on aggregate inventory levels?
Those are good questions, too. If you have any insights, I'd love to hear them.
By Dave Altig, senior vice president and research director at the Atlanta Fed
April 14, 2010 in Business Cycles, Data Releases | Permalink
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maybe its deflationary expectations...
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rjs |
April 15, 2010 at 06:55 AM
I think there has been a shift. If you look at the i/s ratio for durable goods it looks like a return to normal. If you exclude IT, it looks like the durable i/s ratio has returned to a rising trend that began in 2006.
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Douglas Lee |
April 15, 2010 at 09:35 AM

In a historical study like this, why are we calculating a correlation with "planning to hire"? Who cares whether a someone told a pollster 2 years ago that they were planning to hire someone? Why not look at whether they actually did hire or not? Similarly, why are we counting number of business owners rather than number of jobs?