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February 06, 2007
U.S. Saving: Not Quite As Bad As Sometimes Advertised
Last week's report that the US personal saving rate dipped further into negative territory last year prompted similar responses from Steven Kyle at Angry Bear and Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture. Said Steven:
This can’t go on indefinitely but the longer it does the more unpleasant it will be to unwind it. Time to batten down the financial hatches folks.
Said Barry:
Yesterday, DF asked about the negative savings rate. I noted the RM column I wrote last June (Ignore Statistical Oddities at Your Peril) in response. Like all unsustainable things, they will continue until they no longer can. This is often for far longer than expected, but not forever (an admittedly large range of time).
They may be both be correct, but on this one Steven's sources are a bit better than Barry's. Steven has pgl around to point out that the most recent data is about personal saving by households -- not private saving (which includes business saving) or national saving (which adds government surpluses to private saving). Barry is less fortunate:
As Abelson points out this morning, "the only time ever before that our worthy population had two years in a row of negative savings, as we did in '05 and '06, was in those heartbreak years, 1932 and 1933"...
A fresh take on the subject comes courtesy of MacroMaven's Stephanie Pomboy (via Alan Abelson). Stephanie notes not just the negative national savings rate, but two other relevant data points: The ratio of cash to debt, and how that cash and debt is distributed in the country...
So, for the record:
These statistics only cover the period through the third quarter of last year, but based on what we know about the federal deficit, corporate profits, and investment spending in the fourth quarter, it is a safe bet that the storyline will not change: Though personal saving rates failed to rise out of negative territory, overall saving in the US -- though still low by historical standards -- actually improved in 2006.
The claim that households may be especially illiquid at the moment is an interesting one, and something to think about. And you are certainly entitled to fret that national saving is still too low for our own good. But we might as well acknowledge progress when it appears (slight as it is).
UPDATE: Tom Blumer at Bizzy Blog links to the folks at OpinionJournal.com reminding us that saving calculated from the National Income and Product Accounts does not really measure changes in the value of assets -- a more appropriate measure of saving. I would, however, note knzn's call for caution in thinking about wealth from housing.
UPDATE, THE SECOND: Mark J. Perry takes the net worth angle too.
UPDATE, THE THIRD: pgl pokes some holes in the claim that the saving behavior of US households will look much better if only we focus on changes in net worth.
UPDATE, THE FOURTh: Steven Kyle has some follow-up thoughts (about which I have no quarrel).
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Posted by:
Barry Ritholtz |
February 07, 2007 at 06:54 AM
Thanks for the mention in reference to Steven's post and a big thanks for doing the hard work with that excellent graph. Greg Mankiw has often mocked the idea that the Clinton fiscal responsibiliy led to a rise in net national savings but your graph shows it did increase in the 1990's. Alas, this didn't last.
Posted by:
pgl |
February 07, 2007 at 09:17 AM
David - I got curious about this WSJ argument that household net worth has risen substantially. My latest post basically says your use of the NIPA definition is fine. Yes, net worth can change quickly with capital gains AND with capital losses. From 1999QIV to 2006QIII, real wealth rose by only 8.2% as population rose by 7%. In other words, net private savings has been so low that real per capita net worth (excluding those increases in real government debt per capita) is only 1.1% higher than it was 6.75 years ago. In a word, your critics have no point.
Posted by:
pgl |
February 07, 2007 at 03:16 PM
I agree with Barry. Investments are not savings, and to move the goalpost when the number (and outlook) gets worse is disingenuous.
Posted by:
Idaho_Spud |
February 08, 2007 at 12:45 PM
"Investments are not savings."
Yeah, I call mine 'savings in progress'...unless I get my brains kicked in.
Then I reach for the Ritz crackers and peanut butter. The peanut butter is great, but I hate that new plastic on those Ritz tubes. Where are the scissors? They should build cars out of that stuff.
I don't know that I can call cash on hand in every instance savings considering that it appears to be losing purchasing power ...particularly at my grocery store. Now, I did luck out and find Blue Bell ice cream on sale last week. That was a big win-win for me!!
Yeah, I am back on the Diet Mountain Dews trying to work off those new pounds. Or perhaps I'm only trying to get ready for the next sale on Blue Bell. I dreamed about that last night.
All is well...
Posted by:
Movie Guy |
February 09, 2007 at 09:21 AM



Distinguish between savings and investments/assets. Too many people who weigh in on this subject fail to recognize that distinction.
Savings are safe. They are there for emergencies, special purchases, whatever, and they can be relied upon -- regardless of any externalities.
Investments fluctuate. They are risk assets. Stocks, Real Estate, and other investment asset classes generate higher returns BECAUSE the risk of capital loss exists. The higher returns compensate the investors for this risk.
Consider the person who retired in 2002, after diligently saving and investing for many many years. The crash in 2000 put a big hit on their investment vehicles (IRA/401ks, etc.) -- but not their savings.