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February 20, 2005

Are Federal Reserve Notes And Treasury Debt The Same Thing?

My respected friend pgl at Angry Bear dumps on Charles Krauthammer for saying this:

2042 is the fictional date for the fictional bankruptcy of a fictional trust fund. Let's start with basics. The Social Security system has no trust fund. No lock box. When you pay your payroll tax every year, the money is not converted into gold bars and shipped to some desert island, ready for retrieval when you turn 65... These pieces of paper might be useful for rolling cigars. They will not fund your retirement. Your Leisure World greens fees will be coming from the payroll taxes of young people during the years you grow old. That is why 2042 is a fiction. The really important date is 2018.

pgl trots out a pretty clever argument.

If there are Federal Reserve notes in your wallet, I’ll gladly buy you a cup of coffee if you give them to me.

If you really believe piece of paper called financial assets are worth nothing, I’ll gladly take all of your cash, funds in your bank accounts, and other financial assets. In turn, I’ll even buy a week’s worth of groceries.

Clever, but not apt, I think, because modern institutions really do imply different expectations about the liability represented by a Federal Reserve note compared to that represented by a Treasury security.

Here's what I mean.  I think it useful (and appropriate) to think of my economic relationship with the government in terms of the totality of our financial interactions.  In other words, my net tax burden does not just consist of my social security taxes, or my income-tax payments, or what I remit in Medicare "premiums", etc., etc., etc, but the present value of all my payments to the government less all the payments they make to me.  (This is the fundamental  idea behind the concept of generational accounting, of which I am a very big fan.)

Suppose I hold a Treasury security. That, of course, is a payment the government owes to me, and I have every expectation that it will be made.  But if, for some reason, there has been a miscalculation, a change in economic circumstances, a change in policy, the government may find that it has to raise my taxes to obtain the revenues to honor those payments.  In doing so, it has effectively reduced the return on that security.  Distortionary price effects aside -- granted, a major qualification -- why should it matter to me how it happens?  Lower my social security benefits, raise my income taxes, whatever.  It all amounts to a haircut on that Treasury payment to me. 

Because the distributional aspects of these things can matter, blanket haircuts are probably a pretty bad idea -- foreigners, for example, finance a good chunk of our collective borrowing, and they aren't likely to appreciate the opportunity to finance our fiscal imbalances on an ongoing basis.  Changes in tax and transfer policies are the way we go because they can be targeted (which gets us to positive versus normative questions, which I'll address below.)  But the basic economic distinction is one without a difference.

Why are Federal Reserve notes different?  At some level, they aren't, as pgl has reminded me on numerous occasions.  One way to truly implement a haircut on government debt is to reduce the purchasing power of the currency in which the debt is paid -- by employing, in other words, the so-called inflation tax.  But the United States, and almost all developed countries, have worked hard to ensure people that this won't happen.  This is why the Fed is largely independent of the Treasury.  In essence, we have guaranteed that fiscal imbalances won't be addressed by reducing the value of Federal Reserve notes.  Despite protests to the contrary, no such promise is made for the return to Treasury notes, as the ever-changing tax rate on interest income makes abundantly clear.

Now to Krauthammer's point.  Here we, again, we have the unfortunate confluence of positive and normative assertions.  I think Krauthammer is making the positive point that private debt and equity supports investment. In many cases, public debt supports consumption, and there is a big difference between these two situations.  Of course, you may want to argue that, at the margin, the bulk of public expenditure is actually investment (and more productive than private investment).  That is an assertion that can be adjudicated by evidence, and I'll listen  But there is no fallacy in Krauthammer's assertion.

Then there is the normative question -- whether is right to renege on the government payments promised (and planned for) by retirees and near-retirees.  On this, pgl and I (and President Bush) agree that the answer is "no."

UPDATE: An update at the original Angry Bear post, and more at William Polley.

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Real wealth is created by digging stuff out of the ground, growing stuff we eat, discovering new facts about nature, creating new intelectural concepts, organizing groups of workers and capital in new and more efficient ways and a lot lot more. However, all of this stuff is dependent on trust. When that trust is lost a lot of these things dont happen. Calling the trust fund debt "just pieces of paper" is starting the process of losing the trust necessary for modern capitalism to work its wonders.
Do we want to go down that road??

Posted by: dilbert dogbert | February 20, 2005 at 10:50 AM

See Angrybear where I have updated this post to note your point - as well as why the IOUs of the Federal Reserve critically depend on the Federal government honoring its IOUs.

Posted by: pgl | February 20, 2005 at 11:49 AM

A federal reserve note is a promise from the government NOW. A treasury bond is a promise from the governmetn AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. There is an inherent danger in your comparing the two via a present discounted value. PDV assumes that the appropriate interest rate to discount at is constant into the future and in fact is knowable today. But the problem is, the government may behave so irresponsibly that the appropriate interest rate at some future date is far higher than you think it will be - thus effectively making the present value of that future promise worthless. The point in your argument where you glide over this problem is where you say "I have every expectation it will be made" about the future payment. Well, maybe yes and maybe no.

In addition, it matters a lot WHOSE tax gets increased in the future to pay the bond. It also matters if the owner of that bond is here in the US or is somewhere else, like China.

On the issue of inflation, remember that the shorter the maturity of the government paper that is out there, the less inflation proof it is. Higher inflation rates simply get included into interest rates when the shorter paper gets rolled over.

Finally, Krauthammer's assumption that private spending is investment and public spending is consumption is just another way of stating the Republican mantra that ALL government spending is bad. NONSENSE. Private entrepreneurs cant make a profit if they dont have roads, educated workers, well functioning courts, etc. etc. And do you really want to claim that all of that household credit card debt and home equity loans are supporting investment?

Posted by: steve kyle | February 20, 2005 at 01:55 PM

Hi guys -- A few responses.

Dilbert -

My point is that I find it kind of puzzling that changing the rate at which I'm taxed after I've purchased government debt is not viewed as a type of default. Likewise, a change in benefit formulas that applies to accumulated payroll tax contributions. I get the sense that people treat the debt represented by the trust fund as sacrosanct in ways they don't treat debt held outside of the trust fund -- otherwise they wouldn't be calling for higher taxes (at least not without a grandfather clause). I think I understand that the different treatment is about the distributional consequences, and I may even agree with the underlying sentiment. But that's religion, not economics.

pgl -- You are obviously correct that federal Reserves notes are backed by nothing but trust. (They are not even backed by Treasury securities in any meaningful sense -- if you try to cash in the securities, you'll just get more Federal Reserve notes.) The thing is, it is seemingly much easier to find your road to collapse by trying to finance imbalances with inflation than it is from explicit taxation or spending reductions. So we appear willing to countenance more "little defaults" with Treasury securities than we are with money. And I'll repeat myself -- if the government raises taxes and reduces the return to the debt I hold in the process, they default. We put up with it (a) because we can verify the state of the world and identify cause and effect; and (b) we can throw the rascls out of office for getting us into the situation if we want to (an idea I know you can embrace).

steve -- A Federal reserve note is not just a promise now, at least we hope it is not. That is exactly why it is important to keep inflation low -- so people can have confidence in its future purchasing power.

And I did leave open the possibility that public investment might be more productive than private investment at the margin. If the evidence is there that this is so, bring it on.

Posted by: Dave Altig | February 20, 2005 at 02:29 PM

Dave,
Your comment about religon brought up the image in my minde of the Hindu(?) concept of the structure of the world where an elepant holds the world up and it stands of the back of a stack of turtles. Someone asked what is below the turtles and the hindu said: It is turtles all the way down. That is the way I think about all of society: It is trust all the way down. It is something that should not be treated lightly. Remember the constiution is only "a piece of paper". I think we have an AG who thinks that way right now.
As far a taxes and tax rates go I thought that markets are for taking that into account.
Politics is always about who is the screwed and who is the screwee. I don't see politics going away any time soon.
Thanks for the blog. Lots of good ideas to think about. Keeps an old retired guys brain working.

Posted by: dilbert dogbert | February 20, 2005 at 05:45 PM

It is foolish to pretend that public and private investment can be separated and rates of return compared. They are complementary. Just try making money from your factory if the government doesnt build a road to it. Other examples abound. The point is that it is not an either/or choice. You need both.

Posted by: steve kyle | February 20, 2005 at 05:58 PM

Count me in agreement on the normative question. That's where Krauthammer goes wrong. More at my blog.

Posted by: William Polley | February 20, 2005 at 09:38 PM

Dave,

I have been puzzling over this issue of "What backs Federal Reserve Notes?" I have repeated the refrain "Federal Reserves notes are backed by nothing but trust" for so long now that I hardly give it a second thought, but perhaps it deserves a second thought. If by this we mean they are not convertable into gold at a fixed price, OK, I understand that, but so what? They are convertable (via legal tender laws) into any number of "real" things (as dilbert dogbert defined earlier) upon demand, including your tax obligations. That they are not convertible at a fixed price is what an inflation target is all about, right? So why don't we say that Federal Reserve notes are backed by the productivity of the U.S. economy? That sounds like a better "backing" to me than gold, for which the relative preciousness is certainly more variable. Would you really feel more "secure" holding a pocket full of krugerrand receipts or dollars? Isn't the "backing" of a paper instrument nothing more than its security?

Posted by: Waterdog | February 21, 2005 at 09:56 AM

Dave --

A small point.

I'll think you will find that our innovative financial sector has found a myriad of ways to use "private debt" to support consumption, not just investment -- think of the various ways of borrowing against your (hopefully rising) home equity to support higher levels of current consumption. Increase in household consumption, if i am not mistaken, has exceeded the increase in household income for a while now.

A small qualification though; no doubt a higher fraction of the expanding fiscal deficit is going to support consumption than the expansion in private debt.

Posted by: brad | February 22, 2005 at 06:31 PM

Noam at TNR & Matt Y. had some great comments on the Krauthammer oped. DeLong has a nice summary.

Posted by: pgl | February 22, 2005 at 07:18 PM

Waterdog --

The government backing issue is an important issue in monetary theory. There are some "deep theory" models of money -- I'm thinking of Randy Wright and co-authors work here -- that suggests government acceptance as payment of taxes is at least a sufficient condition for sustaining a fiat monetary standard.

However, I think of this as an equilibrium selection issue rather than the government "backing" the currency in a commodity-standard sense. There is no trade in government liabilities and credits for example, as would be the case in a standard commodity-backed monetary system. But fiat money is tricky stuff, so maybe I can be talked out of that.

Brad -- point taken.

pgl -- I didn't like the TNR piece. It just seemed to miss the point. As for Yglesias, he just made your point, and you made it better.

Posted by: Dave Altig | February 23, 2005 at 07:36 AM

The OASI Trust Fund is made up of un-marketable special public-debt obgliation Treasury securities.

I think even if you could steal one of these "special issues" from the SSA, I suspect they are only payable to them.

I've never seen one, but Section 201(d) of the Social Security Act says they have to exist in paper form. Moreover, the notes have to state "on its face that the obligation shall be incontestable in the hands of the Trust Fund to which it is issued". In your hands, well, perhaps it is more contestable...

Section 201(e) of the Social Security Act appears to indicate that these special debt obligations cannot be sold at market value, only redeemed from the Treasury, although some of the other securities (held by the DI trust fund, for example) can be sold on the market.

Anyway, don't accept a special public-debt obligation note in exchange for coffee without consulting your lawyer.

Posted by: Mr. Econotarian | February 24, 2005 at 02:57 PM

For my research paper: What top 7 or 8 countries hold what amount of the U. S. debt in Federal Reserve Notes?

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